Is Kobe Bryant better than Michael Jordan? Why?

Question

We have a debate going on here in Y-Answers where some of you young idiots think Kobe is better than Jordan. Please explain why if you feel he is, Im curious to what your reasons are. I will be checking in and responding periodically.

I love this question. I am going to leave it out there for another day. I love the answers Im getting.

Answer 1

Kobe will never catch Jordan, he wont even get close, this is why:
Games with 15+ assists
Air Jordan: 5
Kobe Bryant: 1
Games with 12+ assists
Air Jordan: 26
Kobe Bryant: 12
Games with 10+ assists
Air Jordan: 76
Kobe Bean Bryant: 52
Games with 8+ assists
Air Jordan: 207
Kobe Bean Bryant: 114
Games with 5+ assists
Air Jordan: 587
Kobe Bean Bryant: 353
Games with less than 3 assists
Air Jordan: 150
Kobe Bean Bryant: 188
Games with less than 2 assists
Air Jordan: 51
Kobe Bean Bryant: 105
Games with NO assists
Air Jordan: 7
Kobe Bean Bryant: 47
Games with 15+ rebounds
Air Jordan: 8
Kobe Bean Bryant: 2
Games with 12+ rebounds
Air Jordan: 61
Kobe Bean Bryant: 20
Games with 10+ rebounds
Air Jordan: 151
Kobe Bean Bryant: 70
GOT DEFENSE?
Games with 8+ steals
Air: 12
Bean: 0
Games with 7+ steals
Air: 18
Bean: 1
Games with 6+ steals
Air: 47
Bean: 6
Games with 5+ steals
Air: 110
Bean: 26
Games with 4+ steals
Air: 235
Bean: 63
Games with 3+ steals
Air: 460
Bean: 165
Of the 143 50 point games since 1986, in terms of shooting percentage:
Michael Jordan's games include #1, #5, #8, #17, #21, #22, etc.
Kobe Bryant's games include
10 of the 30 worst
7 of the 15 worst
The 3 worst
#118, #120, #122, #129, #131, #132, #133, #141, #142, #143
In NBA history, there are 13 50 point games with under 50% shooting, and Kobe Bryant is responsible for 6 of them.
Of every game played since 1986:
Michael Jordan has 13 of top 25 game scores: #1, #4, #6, #6 (ties himself), #11, #16, #16, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23, #25
Kobe Bryant has 3 of the top 25 game scores.
What is Game Score? Game Score is a simple formula that evaluates a player’s individual game performance. All statistics in the box score are summed up, with different weights for different stats, to show how impressive a player’s all-around contribution is.
Kobe Bryant also has:
2nd worst known game score for a player scoring 10+ points. (5-21 shooting)
2nd worst known game score for a player scoring 30+ points. (11-29)
Worst and 4th worst known game scores for a player scoring 40+ points. (17-47, 12-30)
Games with 15+ rebounds
Air Jordan: 8
Kobe Bean Bryant: 2
Games with 12+ rebounds
Air Jordan: 61
Kobe Bean Bryant: 20
Games with 10+ rebounds
Air Jordan: 151
Kobe Bean Bryant: 70
Games with 15+ assists
Air Jordan: 5
Kobe Bryant: 1
Games with 12+ assists
Air Jordan: 26
Kobe Bryant: 12
Games with 10+ assists
Air Jordan: 76
Kobe Bean Bryant: 52
Games with 8+ assists
Air Jordan: 207
Kobe Bean Bryant: 114
Games with 5+ assists
Air Jordan: 587
Kobe Bean Bryant: 353
Games with less than 3 assists
Air Jordan: 150
Kobe Bean Bryant: 188
Games with less than 2 assists
Air Jordan: 51
Kobe Bean Bryant: 105
Games with NO assists
Air Jordan: 7
Kobe Bean Bryant: 47
Games with 8+ steals
Air: 12
Bean: 0
Games with 7+ steals
Air: 18
Bean: 1
Games with 6+ steals
Air: 47
Bean: 6
Games with 5+ steals
Air: 110
Bean: 26
Games with 4+ steals
Air: 235
Bean: 63
Games with 3+ steals
Air: 460
Bean: 165
Games with multiple blocks
Air: 220
Bean: 102
Games with 3+ blocks
Air: 70
Bean: 22
Games with 4+ blocks
Air: 25
Bean: 4
Games with less than 4 turnovers
Air: 775
Bean: 489
Games with less than 3 turnovers
Air: 545
Bean: 333
Games with less than 2 turnovers
Air: 275
Bean: 177
Games with NO turnovers
Air: 90
Bean: 45
Games with 5+ turnovers
Air: 132 (2 out of every 16 games)
Bean: 147 (3 out of every 16 games)
Games with more turnovers than assists
Air: 144 (13 out of every 100 games)
Bean: 174 (22 out of every 100 games)
Foul Outs
Air: 7
Bean: 16
Percentage of points scored on free throws
Michael Jordan: 22.7%
Kobe Bryant: 25.9%
Percentage of points scored on two point field goals
Michael Jordan: 72%
Kobe Bryant: 59%
Three point shot attempts per game
Air Jordan: 1.66
Kobe Bryant: 3.54 (more) (less)
All-Rookie First Team
Michael Jordan: Yes
Kobe Bryant: No
Kobe Bryant was voted to the All-Star team his rookie year for some reason, even though he didn’t make the All-Rookie First Team…
Olympic Gold Medals
Michael Jordan: 2
Kobe Bryant: 0
Michael Jordan is one of three players to win an Olympic gold as both an amateur (1984) and professional (1992). The other players are Patrick Ewing and Chris Mullin, who did it with him.
All-Star selections
Michael Jordan: 14
Kobe Bryant: 9
Michael Jordan was an All-Star every year he was eligible, including his injury plagued 1986 season. He is #2 all time in NBA All-Star selections behind Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
All-Star Game Most Valuable Player awards
Michael Jordan: 3
Kobe Bryant: 2
Jordan’s 40 points in 1988 is still the second most points in an All-Star Game behind Wilt Chamberlain’s 42. Jordan also recorded the only All-Star Game triple double in NBA history in 1997, but did not receive MVP.
Scoring titles
Michael Jordan: 10
Kobe Bryant: 2
Of course Jordan has the most scoring titles in NBA history. He also led the league in total points his rookie season, but was third in scoring average. He is the only player besides Wilt Chamberlain to score 3,000 points in a season.
Steals titles
Michael Jordan: 3
Kobe Bryant: 0
Jordan was the first player in NBA history to lead the league in both scoring and steals. He achieved this feat three times. The only other player to do it is Allen Iverson.
Jordan was the first player in NBA history to record 200 steals and 100 blocks in a season. He performed this feat in back-to-back seasons, making him the only player to perform it multiple times. Hakeem Olajuwon and Scottie Pippen later achieved 200 steals and 100 blocks in one season.
Michael Jordan was named the 1991 Sportsman of the Year by Sports Illustrated.
Jordan is the fourth player in NBA history to win a scoring title and an NBA championship in the same season, which he did all six times.
In 1996, Jordan became the second player in NBA history to sweep the MVP awards (regular season, NBA Finals, All-Star Game) after Willis Reed. He would sweep them again in 1998, making him the only player to do it multiple times.
Michael Jordan led the Chicago Bulls to the best regular season and combined regular season and postseason records in NBA history.
Michael Jordan scored in double digits in all but one game as a Chicago Bull out of 1,109 total games.
College awards at North Carolina
1984 ACC Men’s Basketball Player of the Year
1984 USBWA College Player of the Year
1984 Naismith College Player of the Year
1984 John R. Wooden Award
1984 Adolph Rupp Trophy
1982 ACC Freshman of the Year
1982 national championship
Game-winning defensive play and shot in the 1982 national championship game against Georgetown
“The Clutch Factor”
Stop saying Kobe Bryant is one of the most clutch players ever.
Please watch film of Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, Robert Horry, and how about… Michael Jordan?
These are approximations because it is difficult to define “clutch”. Here we have defined it as shots within the last 24 seconds of a game within 2 points.
Game winning shots
Michael Jordan: 33 out of 58 attempts (56.9%)
Kobe Bryant: 7 out of 32 attempts (21.9%)
Michael Jordan has the most known game winning shots of any player in NBA history. He has by far the highest conversion rate in the clutch.
Michael Jordan led countless 4th quarter comebacks in which he singlehandedly won the game throughout his career.
Among Kobe’s 32 clutch opportunities, he has yet to pass the ball to another player. He has by far the most end of game situations with no assists of any player in NBA history. He has one of the lowest conversion rates in the clutch.
Game winning shots in the playoffs
Kobe: 5
Jordan: Approximately 15
Kobe Bryant is not among the top 100 players all time in assists per game.
Michael Jordan is. He’s #76 in assists per game and #34 in assists.
Michael Jordan is #3 all time in rebounding by a guard (behind Magic Johnson and Oscar Robertson).
Kobe Bryant is not among the top 50 players all time in steals per game.
Michael Jordan is. He’s #4 in steals per game and #2 in steals.
Michael Jordan is #1 all time in blocks by a guard.
Kobe Bryant is not among the top 10 players all time in points per game.
Michael Jordan is #1 all time in points per game and #3 in points.
Record in games with 30+ shot attempts
Michael Air Jordan: 72-57 (.558)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 31-39 (.443)
Record as team leader
Michael Air Jordan: 640-290 (.688)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 121-125 (.492)
Record, all team games
Michael Air Jordan: 706-366 (.659)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 556-314 (.639)
Postseason as team leader
Air: Missed postseason 0 times in 13 seasons
Bean: Missed postseason 1 time in 3 seasons
How do their teams fare without them?
Team record in games missed
Michael Jordan: 19-49 (.279)
86: 18-43
89: 0-1
92: 0-2
93: 1-3
Even the world champion Bulls suffered 1-5 without their undisputed leader.
Kobe Bryant: 53-33 (.616)
97: 8-3
98: 3-0
00: 12-4
01: 11-3
02: 2-0
The championship Lakers teams seemed barely affected by the absence of Kobe.
Also of note: Kobe Bryant tore a championship team apart. Michael Jordan pieced a championship team together.
ACTUAL ACCOMPLISHMENTS
NBA championships
Michael Jordan: 6 in 6 NBA Finals
Kobe Bryant: 3 in 4 NBA Finals
NBA Finals Most Valuable Player awards
Michael Jordan: 6
Kobe Bryant: 0
No one is close to Michael Jordan in NBA Finals MVPs.
Regular season Most Valuable Player awards
Michael Jordan: 5
Kobe Bryant: 0
Michael Jordan was so dominant and valuable to his team that he LOST MVP awards because of it. The league voters were tired of awarding it to the same player, and gave it to Magic Johnson in 1989 and 1990 instead because he had only received MVP once. Jordan is #1 all time in MVP voting, and has 14 combined MVP awards (regular season, NBA Finals, All-Star), the most all time.
All-NBA First Team selections
Michael Jordan: 10
Kobe Bryant: 5
Michael Jordan is tied for #2 all time in All-NBA First Teams behind Karl Malone with 11.
All-Defensive First Team selections
Michael Jordan: 9
Kobe Bryant: 5
Michael Jordan has made more All-Defensive First Teams than any other player in NBA history. This last All-Defensive First Team honor for Kobe was complete bulls***, but whatever.
Defensive Player of the Year awards
Michael Jordan: 1
Kobe Bryant: 0
Michael averaged 35 points per game when he won DPoY. The next closest scorer to win it had 27 ppg. Guards rarely receive Defensive Player of the Year.
Rookie of the Year
Michael Jordan: Yes
Kobe Bryant: No
In his rookie year, Michael Jordan led his team in scoring, rebounding, assists and steals. He is the only player in NBA history to lead his team in four (of the 5) categories, and obviously the only rookie to do it. Julius Erving did it in the ABA, but never in the NBA. Jordan was 4 blocks away from repeating this feat in 1989.
Michael Jordan led his team in three stats 5 different times, including leading the team in blocks several times. Kobe Bryant has led his team in three categories once in his career.
Career Player Efficiency Rating
Michael Jordan: 27.91
Kobe Bryant: 23.49
What is Player Efficiency Rating? PER is a formula that uses a player’s stats to determine how productive and efficient he is in his time on the court. If you shoot the ball a lot, but don’t shoot as well, your rating goes down. If you turn the ball over a lot, your rating goes down. If you are efficient and contribute an all-around game, your rating goes up. Due to factors like shooting percentage, it’s almost impossible for a guard to have a very high career rating, like above 25 (Jordan is the only one).
Highest PER Season
Michael Jordan: 31.71
Kobe Bryant: 27.97
40 point games
MJ: 173
Kobe: 85
30 point games
MJ: 561
Kobe: 245
20 point games
MJ: 926
Kobe: 520
Games with under 50% shooting
Michael Jordan: 466 (43% of games)
Kobe Bryant: 489 (62% of games)
Games with under 48% shooting
Michael Jordan: 437 (41% of games)
Kobe Bryant: 470 (60% of games)
Games with under 46% shooting
Michael Jordan: 360 (33% of games)
Kobe Bryant: 417 (53% of games)
Games with under 44% shooting
Michael Jordan: 288 (1 out of every 4 games)
Kobe Bryant: 353 (1 out of every 2 games)
Games with under 42% shooting
Michael Jordan: 228 (1 out of every 5 games)
Kobe Bryant: 307 (2 out of every 5 games)
Games with under 40% shooting
Michael Jordan: 154 (1 out of every 7 games)
Kobe Bryant: 246 (1 out of every 3 games)
Games with under 35% shooting
Michael Jordan: 85 (8 out of every 100 games)
Kobe Bryant: 156 (20 out of every 100 games)
Games with under 30% shooting
Michael Jordan: 39 (1 out of every 28 games)
Kobe Bryant: 81 (1 out of every 10 games)
Games with 70% or better shooting
Michael “Air” Jordan: 23 (1 out of every 45 games)
Kobe “Bean” Bryant: 5 (1 out of every 160 games)
Games with 60% or better shooting
Michael “Air” Jordan: 160 (1 out of every 7 games)
Kobe “Bean” Bryant: 53 (1 out of every 15 games)
Games with 50% or better shooting
Michael “Air” Jordan: 504 (1 out of every 2 games)
Kobe “Bean” Bryant: 203 (1 out of every 4 games)
Games with 20 shots made on 60% or better shooting
MJ: 15
Kobe: 3
Games with 15 shots made on 60% or better shooting
MJ: 77
Kobe: 17
Games with 15 shots made on 50% or better shooting
MJ: 174
Kobe: 45
Games with 50 points & less than 10 free throw attempts
MJ: 3
Kobe: 0
Games with 40 points & less than 10 free throw attempts
MJ: 27
Kobe: 15
40 point games with less than 5 three point attempts
MJ: 156 (9 out of 10 40 pt games)
Kobe: 26 (3 out of 10 40 pt games)
Games with 40 points and under 50% shooting
MJ: 27 (16% of his 40 pt games)
Kobe: 40 (47% of his 40 pt games)
Games with 40 points and under 45% shooting
MJ: 13 (8% of his 40 pt games)
Kobe: 18 (21% of his 40 pt games)
Games with 40 points and under 40% shooting
MJ: 2 (1% of his 40 pt games)
Kobe: 7 (8% of his 40 pt games)
Yes, that's right, almost half of Kobe's 40 point games involved missing more shots than made ones.
50 point games with under 50% shooting
Michael Jordan: 1 of his 31 games (15-31, 48%)
Kobe Bryant: 6 of his 21 games
50 point games with under 45% shooting
Michael Jordan: 0
Kobe Bryant: 3
NBA Playoffs
50 point games
KB: 1
MJ: 8
40 point games
KB: 4
MJ: 38
30 point games
KB: 33
MJ: 109
20 point games
KB: 86
MJ: 173
Assist to turnover ratio
Jordan: 1.93
Kobe: 1.56
Assists per game
Jordan: 5.3
Kobe: 4.5
In order to match Jordan's assists numbers by the time he has played as long as Jordan, he needs to average 7.2 apg. It'd be nice to see if Kobe could ever average this in a week.
These idiots don't know that Jordan played during the slowest paced era in history and still put up 30.
Percentage of team's points scored in the NBA Finals
2000: 14.5% (not even including the game he missed) (W)
2001: 24.4% (W)
2002: 25.2% (W)
2004: 27.6% (L)
Michael Jordan
1991: 30.8% (W)
1992: 34.6% (W)
1993: 38.3% (W)
1996: 29.4% (W)
1997: 36.8% (W)
1998: 38.1% (W)
That stat will destroy any argument. Jordan=legend. Kobe=not legend. Honestly, that should shut up every stupid motherf****r who's ever opened his/her mouth.
Kobe could make 1500 shots in a row, and he'd barely pass Jordan in FG%.
Now let's assume that Kobe takes 2000 shots per season like the ballhog he has been shown to be.
At that rate he'd need to convert on 56.3% of his shot attempts for the next five years. We know this is impossible already, especially for a guard. Even MJ couldn't do it for a season!
Or perhaps Kobe plays for ten more years, averaging 1500 shots per season. He'd need to shoot over 54% to match Jordan, and once again, Jordan barely did this himself for one season.
If Kobe played until he was 50, another 21 years and every game of every season starting now, he would still have to average 32.6 ppg just to near Jordan's career ppg. HAHA!
sfhguibnbhq | May 18, 2007
If Kobe played another ten years (which he won't), and averaged 80 games each season (800 games total), he would have to average over 35.5 points per game to match Jordan's career scoring average. Kobe won't even have a season on that level.
If Kobe played another 8 years for 640 more games, 36.9 ppg.
If Kobe played another 5 years for 400 more games, 41 ppg.
If Kobe wanted to match Jordan's average by the time he has been playing as long as Jordan did, 45.1 ppg... yeah right.
And now perhaps the most telling stat I could give (and also the hardest one to compile and research). This is the ultimate. This is one of the things to look at when judging great players. The negative impact of his absence.
TEAM RECORD IN GAMES MISSED
Jordan: 22-49 (.310)
86: 22-43
89: 0-1
92: 0-2
93: 1-3
Even a championship caliber team suffered without its undisputed leader.
Bryant: 53-33 (.616)
97: 8-3
98: 3-0
00: 12-4
01: 11-3
02: 2-0
The championship Lakers teams seemed barely affected without Kobe.
Dedication to the game?
82-game seasons
Jordan: 9
Bryant: 1
80+ game seasons
Jordan: 11
Bryant: 3
Sidenote: Jordan played in every game for which he was eligible in his career. He missed 64 games to injury in 1986, a couple of games for other injuries, and 5 for suspensions for fighting and such.
A quick glance at Michael Jordan season by season
1985: 28.2 pts, 6.5 reb, 5.9 ast, 2.39 stl, 51.5% fg, 25.8 PER
1987: 37.1 pts, 5.2 reb, 4.6 ast, 2.88 stl, 48.2% fg, 29.8 PER
1988: 35.0 pts, 5.5 reb, 5.9 ast, 3.16 stl, 53.5% fg, 31.7 PER
1989: 32.5 pts, 8.0 reb, 8.0 ast, 2.89 stl, 53.8% fg, 31.1 PER
1990: 33.6 pts, 6.9 reb, 6.3 ast, 2.77 stl, 52.7% fg, 31.2 PER
1991: 31.5 pts, 6.0 reb, 5.5 ast, 2.72 stl, 53.9% fg, 31.6 PER
1992: 30.1 pts, 6.4 reb, 6.1 ast, 2.28 stl, 51.9% fg, 27.7 PER
1993: 32.6 pts, 6.7 reb, 5.5 ast, 2.83 stl, 49.5% fg, 29.7 PER
1996: 30.4 pts, 6.6 reb, 4.3 ast, 2.20 stl, 49.5% fg, 29.4 PER
1997: 29.6 pts, 5.9 reb, 4.3 ast, 1.71 stl, 48.6% fg, 27.8 PER
1998: 28.7 pts, 5.8 reb, 3.5 ast, 1.72 stl, 46.5% fg, 25.2 PER
Kobe Bryant season by season
1997: 7.6 pts, 1.9 reb, 1.3 ast, 0.69 stl, 41.7% fg, 14.4 PER
1998: 15.4 pts, 3.1 reb, 2.5 ast, 0.94 stl, 42.8% fg, 18.5 PER
1999: 19.9 pts, 5.3 reb, 3.8 ast, 1.44 stl, 46.5% fg, 18.9 PER
2000: 22.5 pts, 6.3 reb, 4.9 ast, 1.61 stl, 46.8% fg, 21.7 PER
2001: 28.5 pts, 5.9 reb, 5.0 ast, 1.68 stl, 46.4% fg, 24.5 PER
2002: 25.2 pts, 5.5 reb, 5.5 ast, 1.48 stl, 46.9% fg, 23.2 PER
2003: 30.0 pts, 6.9 reb, 5.9 ast, 2.21 stl, 45.1% fg, 26.2 PER
2004: 24.0 pts, 5.5 reb, 5.1 ast, 1.72 stl, 43.8% fg, 23.7 PER
2005: 27.6 pts, 5.9 reb, 6.0 ast, 1.30 stl, 43.3% fg, 23.3 PER
2006: 35.4 pts, 5.3 reb, 4.5 ast, 1.84 stl, 45.0% fg, 27.97 PER
2007: 31.6 pts, 5.7 reb, 5.4 ast, 1.44 stl, 46.3% fg, 26.1 PER
Kobe doesn’t have a season that resembles Jordan.
Seasons with 30+ PER
MJ: 4
KB: 0
Seasons with 28+ PER
MJ: 7
KB: 0
Seasons with 25+ PER
MJ: 12
KB: 3
Michael Jordan and Wilt Chamberlain are the only players in NBA history to have seasonal PERs over 31. They share the top 7 PERs in NBA history. Jordan has 4 and Wilt has 3.
Michael Jordan has 7 of the top 20 seasonal PERs all time. Kobe’s highest is #42 all time, a 27.97 PER.
Jordan has 9 seasons in the top 50 all time in PER. Kobe has 1. Kobe’s other two seasons that make the top 100 all time are #92 and #95…
Seasons with 30+ ppg
MJ: 8
KB: 3
Seasons with 25+ ppg
MJ: 12
KB: 6
Michael Jordan is one of four players in NBA history to average 20+ ppg every season in his career.
Seasons with 50% or better shooting
MJ: 6
KB: 0
Seasons with 47% or better shooting
MJ: 10
KB: 0
Seasons with 45% or better shooting
MJ: 12
KB: 7
Seasons with 6+ rebounds
MJ: 9
KB: 2
Seasons with 6+ assists
MJ: 3
KB: 1
Seasons with 5+ assists
MJ: 9
KB: 6
Seasons with 3+ steals
MJ: 1
KB: 0
Seasons with 2.5+ steals
MJ: 6
KB: 0
Seasons with 2+ steals
MJ: 10
KB: 1
Seasons with 100 or more blocks
MJ: 2
KB: 0
Seasons with 75 or more blocks
MJ: 4
KB: 0
Seasons with more than 50 blocks
MJ: 8
KB: 3
nail in the coffin
NBA Finals
Shaquille O'Neal (with the Lakers only)
2000: 38.0 points, 16.7 rebounds, 2.3 assists, 1.0 steals, 2.7 blocks, 2.2 turnovers, 61.1% shooting, 39% free throw
2001: 33.0 ppg, 15.8 rpg, 4.4 apg, .4 steals, 3.4 blocks, 4 turnovers, 57.3% shooting, 51% FT
2002: 36.3 ppg, 12.3 rpg, 3.8 apg, 2.8 blocks, 59.5% shooting, 66.2% FT
2004: 26.6 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 1.6 apg, .6 blocks, 63.1% shooting, 49% FT
TOTALS: 33.55 ppg, 14.1 rpg, 3.0 apg, 2.4 blocks, 60.2% shooting
Kobe refused to feed Shaq the ball in 2004.
Shaquille O'Neal = highest scoring average for a center in NBA Finals history
Shaquille O'Neal=one of the few players to score 30 points in all games of an NBA Finals
Hahaha Kobe doesn't play in May without Shaq.
Scottie Pippen
18.9 ppg, 6 apg, 8.3 rpg, 1.9 steals, 1.0 blocks, 3.3 turnovers, 42.3% shooting
Kobe Bryant
22.1 ppg, 4.6 apg, 5.2 rpg, 1.4 steals, 1.0 blocks, 3.0 turnovers, 41.6% shooting
Michael Jordan
33.6 ppg, 6 apg, 6 rpg, 2.1 steals, .71 blocks, 50.2% shooting
Hmm, it looks to me like Kobe compares more favorably to Scottie Pippen than to Jordan. He was not the leader. He was not the ultimate playoff performer. Kobe was a sidekick.
As you can see, Jordan didn't even try to press his scoring. He had 57 assists in the 5 game series against the Lakers, the second most ever in a 5 game series behind Magic Johnson...
I thought about pointing out the NBA records Jordan holds, but there's just too many, and there's nothing to compare to with Kobe.
For instance, Jordan is the only player to score more than 20 points in all of his NBA Finals games in his career.
He's the only player to score more than 15 points in all playoffs games in his career (179 games).
His 41.0 ppg against Phoenix is the highest NBA Finals scoring average in history.
What impresses me is that Jordan shot over 50% in the NBA Finals, even for his whole career. The 33.6, 6 and 6 is a different story.
Kobe Bryant
Sub-48%
REG: 470 (60% of games)
PLAYOFFS: 84 (64% of games)
Sub-46%
REG: 417 (53% of games)
PLAYOFFS: 73 (56% of games)
Sub-44%
REG: 353 (45% of games)
PLAYOFFS: 64 (49% of games)
Sub-42%
REG: 307 (39% of games)
PLAYOFFS: 53 (40% of games)
thebruceblitzchannel | May 16, 2007
Kobe has shot under 40% for 1/3 of his career
seriously I cant stop laughing at that.
Kobe Bryant
Below 50% games
Regular season: 489 (62% of games)
Playoffs: 89 (68% of games)
Below 40% games
Regular season: 246 (31% of games)
Playoffs: 47 (36% of games)
Kobe Bryant
Sub 35% games
REG: 156 (20% of games)
PLAYOFFS: 28 (21% of games)
Sub 30% games
REG: 81 (9% of games)
PLAYOFFS: 13 (10% of games)
thebruceblitzchannel | May 17, 2007
Scottie Pippen averaged 13.3 shots per game for his career and Kobe had been taking more shots per game than Pippen averaged for his career by his third year in the league, when Kobe fans ***** about shot attempts I want to stomp their nutsack. Kobe was taking over 15 shots per game from his 3rd year and on, Kobe actually had a year where he took 27 shots per game, Jordan's career average was 21 shots per game.
Jordan took 27 shots per game for only one season, Jordan averaged 37.1ppg that sesaon, the year Kobe took 27 shots per game he averaged 2 points less.
I mean Kobe tries to be like Jordan but it will never ever happen
The same year Kobe took 27 shots per game he only averaged 1.8stl per g, 4.5ast per g, 5.3reb per game, and a crappy 0.4 blocks per game
The year Jordan took 27 shots per game he averaged 5.2reb per game, 4.6ast per g, and a whopping 2.9 steals per game to go with his 1.5 blocks per game
thebruceblitzchannel | May 17, 2007
Lebron James playoff career avg 28.9ppg 46%fg% 8.0rpg 6.8apg 1.4spg .6bpg
Michael Jordan playoff career avg 33.45ppg 49%fg% 6.4rpg 5.7apg 2.1spg .88bpg
Kobe Bryant playoff career avg 23.3ppg 44%fg% 4.9rpg 4.5apg 1.3spg .7bpg
(the only think kobe has on lebron is blocks by .1)
Dwyane Wade playoff career avg 23.5ppg 43%fg% 4.8rpg 6.3apg 1.2spg .5bpg
funny that Kobe and Wade both won titles with shaq and have almost identical playoff career averages.
50 points, sub 50% shooting
Michael Jordan: 1 of his 31 games
Kobe Bryant: 6 of his 21 games
50 points, sub 45% shooting
Michael Jordan: 0
Kobe Bryant: 3
Yes, that's right, almost half of Kobe's 40 point "efforts" are less than 50% shooting. That's hilariously awful when you think about it for a moment.
40 point games
MJ: 173
Kobe: 85
30 point games
MJ: 561
Kobe: 245
50 points & less than 10 free throw attempts
MJ: 3
Kobe: 0
40 points & less than 10 free throw attempts
MJ: 27
Kobe: 15
40 points, sub 50% shooting
MJ: 27 (16% of his 40 pt games)
Kobe: 40 (47% of his 40 pt games)
40 points, sub 45% shooting
MJ: 13 (8% of his 40 pt games)
Kobe: 18 (21% of his 40 pt games)
40 points, sub 40% shooting
MJ: 2 (1% of his 40 pt games)
Kobe: 7 (8% of his 40 pt games)
Here's some lovely information.
70% games
Michael Jordan: 23
Kobe Bryant: 5
60% games
Michael Jordan: 160
Kobe Bryant: 53
50% games
Michael Jordan: 504
Kobe Bryant: 203
20 FG made & 60% or better shooting
MJ: 15
Kobe: 3
15 FG made & 60% or better shooting
MJ: 77
Kobe: 17
15 FG made & 50% or better shooting
MJ: 174
Kobe: 45
I also was able to show that Jordan gave his best for his strongest competition.
80s Jordan scoring average: 32.6 ppg
Regular season
80s Boston: 34.8 ppg
80s Detroit: 32.6 ppg
80s Philadelphia: 35.6 ppg
84-93 Cleveland: 34.2 ppg
Michael Cooper and the Lakers: 35.0 ppg
Playoffs career
Detroit: 30.0 ppg
New York: 33.1 ppg
Philadelphia: 38.2 ppg
Boston: 39.7 ppg
Cleveland: 42.5 ppg
New York was the only one of these teams he faced again in the playoffs during the second threepeat.
Of every game played since 1986:
Michael Jordan has 13 of top 25 game scores: #1, #4, #6, #6 (ties himself), #11, #16, #16, #19, #20, #21, #22, #23, #25
Kobe Bryant has 3 of the top 25 game scores.
Kobe Bryant has:
2nd worst game score for a player scoring 10 points. (5-21)
2nd worst game score for a player scoring 30 points. (11-29)
Worst and 4th worst game scores for a player scoring 40 points. (17-47, 12-30)
Of the 143 50 point games since 1986, in terms of shooting %:
Michael Jordan's games include #1, #5, #8, #17, #21, #22, etc.
Kobe Bryant's games include 10 of the 30 worst
7 of the 15 worst
The 3 worst
#118, #120, #122, #129, #131, #132, #133, #141, #142, #143
the worst home loss in Lakers history occurred this year
March 11, 2007
36 point loss to Dallas Mavericks
Kobe managed to go 6-19, 13-18 ft, dish 3 assists to 5 turnovers
He was 17th in steals... that's because he played the whole damn game.
He barely scraped the top 50 in steals per 40 minutes, and as we all know all the players ahead of him were guards.
thebruceblitzchannel | May 17, 2007
Kobe Bryant doesn't desrve to be on that 1st defensive team! Check this out:
X-Mas Day: Wade scored 40 points & 11 assist on Kobe.
Lebron scored 38 on Kobe
Melo lit Kobe up & man handled Kobe
Arenas torched Kobe for 60!
He was 17th in steals & had a low bpg%.
I don't see how he could be on the 1st defensive team with all that going on.
Team record in games played
Michael Jeffrey Jordan: 707-365 (.660)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 503-281 (.642)
Record in games with 30+ shot attempts
Michael Air Jordan: 72-57 (.558)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 31-39 (.443)
Record as team leader
Michael Air Jordan: 640-290 (.688)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 121-125 (.492)
Record, all team games
Michael Air Jordan: 706-366 (.659)
Kobe Bean Bryant: 556-314 (.639)
Postseason as team leader
Air: Missed postseason 0 times in 13 seasons
Bean: Missed postseason 1 time in 3 seasons
Records of the teams Jordan lost to in the playoffs:
1985 Milwaukee Bucks: 59-23
1986 Boston Celtics: 67-15*
1987 Boston Celtics: 59-23*
1988 Detroit Pistons: 54-28*
1989 Detroit Pistons: 63-19*
1990 Detroit Pistons: 59-23*
*=advanced to NBA Finals
Records of the teams Kobe lost to in the playoffs:
2006 Phoenix Suns: 54-28
2007 Phoenix Suns: 61-21
NBA Finals
Kobe Bryant
2000: 15.6 ppg, 4.2 apg, 4.6 rpg, 1.0 steals, 1.4 blocks, 1.2 turnovers, 36.7% shooting
2001: 24.6 ppg, 5.8 apg, 7.8 rpg, 1.4 steals, 1.4 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 41.5% shooting
2002: 26.7 ppg, 5.2 apg, 5.8 rpg, 1.5 steals, .75 blocks, 3.8 turnovers, 51.4% shooting
2004: 22.6 ppg, 4.4 apg, 2.8 rpg, 1.8 steals, .6 blocks, 3.6 turnovers, 38% shooting
CAREER: 22.1 ppg, 4.6 apg, 5.2 rpg, 1.4 steals, 1.0 blocks, 3.0 turnovers, 41.6% shooting
NBA Finals
Michael Jordan
1991: 31.2 points, 11.4 assists, 6.6 rebounds, 2.8 steals, 1.4 blocks, 66.7% shooting
1992: 35.8 ppg, 6.5 apg, 4.8 rpg, 1.7 steals, .33 blocks, 52.6% shooting
1993: 41.0 ppg, 6.3 apg, 8.2 rpg, 1.7 steals, .66 blocks, 50.8% shooting
1996: 27.3 ppg, 3.8 apg, 5.3 rpg, 1.7 steals, .5 blocks, 48.9% shooting
1997: 32.3 ppg, 6.0 apg, 7.0 rpg, 1.2 steals, .83 blocks, 42.7% shooting
1998: 33.5 ppg, 2.3 apg, 4.0 rpg, 1.8 steals, .67 blocks, 42.7% shooting
CAREER: 33.6 ppg, 6 apg, 6 rpg, 2.1 steals, .71 blocks, 50.2% shooting

thebruceblitzchannel | May 15, 2007
does kobe suck?
11 seasons he's accomplished.
0 NBA MVPs
0 steal titles
0 assist titles
0 defensive player of the year award
0 6th man award
0 rebound titles
0 sports illustrated sportsman of the year award (Wade already got one)
0 espy best basketball player award (Wade already got one)
thebruceblitzchannel | May 15, 2007
0 rookie of the year awards
0 olympic medals (Wade already got two)
0 to lead the league in 3 point shooting
He's played in 4 NBA FINALS and accomplished this
0 finals mvps (Wade have one)
0 broken records in the nba finals (Wade have some)
11 seasons & 4 nba finals is more then enough time to have accomplished those things if you're one of the best ever. Not an all-time great, I'm taking about one of the best ever. Someone that you'll put in your 10 ten. I can't see how Kobe is in some peoples top ten & he has nothing to show for in 11 seasons. He's only got 2 scoring titles & 3 nba titles as an side-kick (he never led to a title).

Jordan definitely has 33 GW shots IN 58 shot attempts. Kobe on the other hand has a current % of 21% in the clutch

Show respect to MJ, please, he has earned it.

Answer 2

OK guys, I know some of you are gonna get all butt-hurt over my answer but read the whole thing and keep a open mind.

Kobe Bryant's offensive skill set is the most complete in the game today and maybe ever. He can score from anywhere on the court, at anytime, in any manner he wants to. He has that killer instinct that keeps his foot on your throat when others would let up. This is not something that I'm just throwing out there, I'm repeating what coaches, players, and analysts have said...I just agree with them. They polled all the leagues coaches a few years back and asked if you had to choose one player to shoot the ball down by 1 with 3 seconds left and 85% said Kobe. Lets face it, some of those in that 15% that didnt choose Kobe, probably did not out of respect for their own guy, otherwise Kobe would've been their pick too. So as far as offensive skill set, yes, I think Kobe is better than Jordan.

Now, for all of you who haven't kicked in your computer monitor, allow me to finish. Michael Jordan was clearly the better all around player. Kobe is a really good defender. Jordan was a really "great" defender.
Kobe, while improving, is still learning to trust his teammate. Before their injuries this year Kobe averaged 7 less shots than the year before and several Lakers were having career years, Odom was talked about as being a possible All-Star. That all was a direct result of Kobe sharing the ball. But still, he does has a great deal of improvment to do in this area. Jordan on the other hand discovered early that he wasnt going anywhere unless his teammates contributed, this knowledge lead to Jordan becoming a player who could make other players better.
Jordan also had the leadership skills that Kobe is still working at.

Botton line is that even though Kobe's offensive skill set is probably better than Jordan's, I'd have to say that Jordan was the better "all around" player on both sides of the court, although I for one believe the gap is a lot smaller than most people think.

PS: Oh yeah, guys look, its ok to compare other players to Jordan and its ok that in our comparing we find that some of these players may be better than Jordan in some aspect of the game. I know many of you were big fans of the man but I'm sick and tired of hearing people say that he was the best at everything. It's ok to say that a player is a better shooter than he was, or a better passer, or has better handles..etc. The guy is a basketball great, not a basketball god.

Answer 3

Kobe is not better than Jordan, period. He might have the most Jordan-like game since the Jordan era ended, but you don't see Kobe carrying his team to 6 championships, or playing the defense that MJ played. This is a silly question, I'm surprised there's even a debate about it.

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Answer 4

ya, your guy that shot 3-20 this nighttime and you prefer to evaluate him to MJ or say that he extra useful. lol so that's extra useful a 80 one factor game against a non playoff dropping team like the Raptors or a sixty 3 playoff game against the eventual worldwide championship Celtics and Larry chicken. you talk approximately youngest yet your techniques do no longer understand earliest. Kobe isn't the earliest to be effective in those scoring objectives, maximum of those earliest scoring objectives have been reached by making use of Wilt or Jordan. the only reason Kobe have been given those youngest record is with the help of the fact he got here into the league on the age of 18 the place maximum NBA participant come into the league whilst they're 2 many years old. by making use of the way who's breaking Kobe youngest record? yup you acquire it Lebron James it. i don't have time to respond to all your question yet for sure you do no longer understand what your conversing approximately. Jordan in his 2d 300 and sixty 5 days very almost neglected the finished 300 and sixty 5 days simply by fact of a leg in harm yet i assume you do no longer understand that. Pippen is a huge participant yet your telling me that Shaq who did no longer win a championship became already interior the right 50 appropriate participant of all time and it is in the previous he became those finals mvp of the Lakers. Pippen became Jordan section kick and Kobe became Shaq section kick. what did kobe do after Shaq left and in the previous Gasol? enable see, the 1st 300 and sixty 5 days they did no longer make the playoffs and the 2d and 0.33 300 and sixty 5 days they did no longer get out the 1st around. Has kobe gained shielding participant of the 300 and sixty 5 days? nope i'm able to pass all day with this yet besides how many extra 3-20 or 6 -24 or 9-31 video games we would desire to continually have from kobe in the previous you recognize that Kobe can't carry Jordan jock strap

Answer 5

No I dont care if Kobe scores 110 pts. Scoring so many points doesn't make you a great player. Jordan was great because he played both sides of the court great. He was a phenom on offense and defense as well as trusted his teamates to come out big when he needed them. It was also the way that jordan carried himself on the court and off court. Very genuine and great leader. I feel Kobe is just a good offensive player doesnt have the poise Jordan did

Answer 6

Its not even close. In no way is Kobe better than MJ. Kobe is an outstanding scorer. I mean 81 points......wow. MJ was just naturally gifted. We have all seen him do things that will never be duplicated, only imitated and they still don't compare. MJ did what he had to, to win. He was a leader. Kobe has no chance of winning with this team he has now. So he just takes 60 shots a game.

Answer 7

Kobe will never be better than Michael Jordon no one in our life time will have the skill level to be able to match or be better than Michael Jordon the great teams to are required to play good team basketball and Michael and Scottie Pippen lead the Bulls in there time with them and Michael Jordon is by far the greatest player ever to the play the game of basketball because he was the most consistent player of all-time. Kobe is so unconsistent you dont know if he is going to have 60 points or 15 points.

Answer 8

It's definitely hard to say that Kobe is anywhere close to where MJ was, but I'd say that Kobe is far closer to MJ than Lebron will ever be.

Kobe is the closest thing this league will ever see compared to Jordan again, but to call him better at this point in his career would be wrong.

However, Kobe and Jordan are equal on many levels. They both had the killer instinct needed to be a superstar in the league, they both play shutdown defense and know how to score.

Jordan > Kobe, but only because Jordan single handedly changed the league.

Answer 9

no no no no, when they gonna put it in their head that Kobe is not is not better then Jordan nor going to be. those people need to look up the word legend that what Jordan is. And also look up the word good, that's what Kobe is a good player. The things Jordan have Koby can't try to measure to his legacy.

Answer 10

In no way can Kobe carry Michael Jordan's jockstrap. Kobe is too selfish and too egotistical to ever really be compared to Michael Jordan. Kobe doesnt do whatever it takes to win RINGS, he wants individual awards...NOW that he doesnt have Shaq around, he's interested in rings...

Answer 11

That's easy. Kobe is easily better than Jordan at being a loser. No argument about that.

In fact, Kobe is best at being the worst loser and whiner ever in the NBA.

"I'm all that we need." Yeah right, Kobe. Now don't whine about not getting help. What a douchebag.