Please don't spit verses at me, I've been a Christian for 56 years and what I need is some sound Christian advice. I have what they call a "prophet personality" which means justice is so so big for me. I realize vengeance it mine sayeth the Lord and I don't want vengeance, but some really unfair, Christian things were done to me by a former boss/principal and because of it I lost my job, health, income and all and I truly was totally innocent in it all, it was the usual power play.,Now this man is still very involved in a big church and I want to discuss what happened now that I'm retired and so is he, but I need a neutral 3rd party to hold both of us accountable, except i don;'t lie and it is his favorite way to travel. But I am being prodded by God to get it off my burdened heart and also so He will be aware of what he is doing. I live in a small type town in Or and have for 32 years and so has he so everyone knows everyone. any suggestions ?
2007-06-12
01:29:23
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maybe specific details will influence you. I contracted M.E in fall of 1994 but continued to teach because I had to support my kids. The dr. wrote up a one year off paid to see if I could whip it, no. In Feb. of that year off, Mr Principal asked me if I would move down to 3rd grade, and it was so he could hire Mr. Glitz and Glitter to make him look good. I always had the highest state test scores every year in my school for all grades. I did not want to move down, because it is very stressful to move grade levels and develop all new curriculum it takes 3 years to settle in and my health was already fragile. I told him why I didn't want to move down and according to our contract I had every right to say no. Because he didn't get his way, he put all the bad kids in my class for the year I returned, set me up and gathered parents against me with lies, total lies, and then tortured me all year, I was doing nothing wrong and eventually tried to write up a letter of reprimand.
2007-06-12
04:40:35 ·
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and then the union lawyer stepped in and squashed the admin and they were forced to admit it was a lie, but they put it in my permanent file illegally and when I applied for disability when I crashed I was denied because of the illegal letter of reprimand and they shredded it before the union guy came in to check it the next day. So instead of getting what I deserved of $2000 a month tax free and health in s. I lost it all
2007-06-12
04:46:27 ·
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He is now minister at the church and on the elder board, but many teachers were illegally treated by him. I just want to tell him I reallydidn't like it and ask him why he did it and admit it and tell me why because it almost cost me my life. Dr's will give evidence here.
2007-06-12
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I'd say just sit him down and talk to him about what his actions did to you and how it made you feel. God will see all things in the end...it is not for you to judge him. Maybe he was just being used as an instrument to test you. None the less, I suggest that you tell him how you feel and let it go. You should forgive him for the pain he has caused you and move on with your life. Kill him with kindness if you must...but don't take vengeance into your own hands.
2007-06-12 01:33:40
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answered by Aly 3
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I brought out my feelings once to the then and current pastor of our church. Only my experience was in a minorly heated moment - it was 5 years later when he publicly stated what I hade claimed on him previously.
Sometimes our "prophet personalities" ruffle feathers. And that's ok. Isn't it? If we are being called upon by God to reveal information.
The issue that is difficult -and the point of my first statement- is that it even when we "know" things to be true - it is up to the person at hand to (through the hand of God) understand what God is telling them.
Being in a small town is difficult in this type of situation, but if you are approaching the situation from the point of Love - love for God, love for the truth and love for your failing Christian brother, then it won't be as difficult as if you were approaching this as some sort of "vengeance".
I guarantee you - you aren't the only one who knows that this man travels on a path of lies.
I would, however, advise to re-think your position and get your heart right before God on the issue. Because if you are coming from a place other than love -it will be noticed. And you will not look "good" in that - no matter how irresponsible his behavior is. Do you understand what I'm saying here?
It shouldn't be too hard to find a neutral thrid party. I would also advise that once you have done this you ask him directly for a meeting. Explain to him that you need to discuss somethings that God has laid on your heart. Ask him if he would mind holding the meeting with another present so that you can both feel free to be honest. If he falters or waivers, you will know that he already is WELL aware of what it is that is on your heart. It may also open up a dialogue between the two of you right then and there.
Either way - the Lord will make it clear to you and you will feel confident and at peace with doing all you could.
Blessings to you dear Christian friend. You may email me if you need to - otherwise, know I am praying over this for you. May God's name be glorified.
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After reading your additional information, my answer remains the same.
2007-06-12 01:54:49
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answered by Mrs.M 4
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not narrow minded Christians - as if anyone would openly admit to being narrow minded lol
don't spit verses at me, I've been a Christian for 56 years - so you don't want to hear from God, you'd rather hear from strangers?
justice is so so big for me - and justice isn't so so big for us too? If you want justice from others, know that God will demand the same from you. Are you justified?
really unfair, Christian things - what exactly is an unfair Christian thing?
because of it I lost my job, health, income and all and I truly was totally innocent in it all - how is it possible that another person caused you to lose your health? Did he stab or beat you or something? If you've been a Christian for so long, why did you not rely upon God to find you another one ... you being so innocent and all.
My advice is write this person a letter and get yourself back into some basic Christian precept classes, you seem a bit skewed :)
2007-06-12 01:36:08
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answered by arewethereyet 7
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Getting forgiveness and reconciliation can do the heart and soul a lot of good, if both of you are open to working through these hard issues.
Even though you are at a big church, it sounds like maybe there isn't a suitably neutral pastor who could help as a mediator? If so, you might try a Christian mediator who can provide that neutral 3rd party for you to work these things out -- they're listed at a website like http://www.christianmediation.com/
2007-06-12 01:36:29
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answered by djchuang 2
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Bringing the issue into the open would not be considered vengeance. You bringing this to light could also be what God wills you to do as He seems to have filled your heart with the need to do so.
In my opinion take some time and ecide on a fair course of action. One that does not seem vindictive. Vindictive would be a letter to the editor or proclaiming his sin during the next church service. You could even ask his Pastor/Priest to mediate the disagreement.
2007-06-12 01:34:37
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answered by Anonymous
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As long as you know that you didn't do anything wrong then God also knows. Have you forgiven this person? If not then try working towards forgiveness, this will not be an easy process but do it for you not for this person. Forgiveness doesn't mean you agree with what the person did to you, you forgive the person...for you, to have peace inside. From what I read you want to talk to this person? It might be good so you get your feelings out there...it will help you going towards forgiveness. You may not get an answer from this person though, because usually you don't get the answer to Why? But I am sure things will become clear soon whether you decide to talk or not to talk to this person. Just remember this person created his own karma he will get it back one way or another because of the things he has done.
2007-06-12 01:43:43
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answered by Andrea C 2
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The difficult part is forgivness. You have to forgive. I know the feeling of taking revenge out on people, trust me it was I that got hurt int he long run. God said if you do nto forgive others God will nto forgive you. I do not know you or the guy concerned but let me tell you this he does not sound like a christian to me. Jesus said "Not everyone who calls me Lord, Lord will enter the Kingdom of God but thoses the do the will of my Father who is in Heaven" Chrisitans that please themselfs instead of God will not enter Heaven. There unfortunatley will be a whole lot of them left behind at the rapture and will be tempted to take to mark on the beast. I like this verse Jesus said "Blessed are those who more, as they will find comfort" Just focus on your relationship with God and take it all to him, as you cannot change what happend to you, but you can move on and become a victor not a victom. Put God first. And give it all to him, ALL OF IT.
2007-06-12 01:39:23
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answered by Anonymous
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I would like to know what exactly qualifies as "some really unfair, Christian things were done to me" as I believe that is a contradiction. Maybe you could explain with more information. How about if everyone starts acting like responsible "Humans" and leave the whole idea of doing the "Christian thing" out of the conversation!
2007-06-12 01:36:01
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answered by steveheremd 5
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Forgiveness, you should forgive before you do this, you need a neutral party, someone who knows neither one of you, they should be told briefly (like you did above) your side and the other guy should briefly tell his before all three meeting. This should be a christian person. I don't think it will do any good though. You would do better to turn it over to God and let God deal with it and forgive, not for him but for yourself. (I live in a small town in OR too)
2007-06-12 01:37:19
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answered by Anonymous
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Go to the Church and ask for some of them to be witnesses for you as you talk to this person, explain the reasons and ask that they not get into any arguing that may result but mediate the meeting with the goal being for you two to settle this and part in brotherly love.
2007-06-12 02:05:39
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