In the last page of the Bible why is everyone in the city or out of the city? what do Jehovah Witnesses think?

Question

people are in the city who have their 'robes washed in the blood of the lamb'
people outside the city are 'the dogs, sorcerers, evildoers... etc ...etc..

there are only two groups... one is with Jesus forever... the other are condemned...
where does one see three groups here as claimed by Russelists: the 144,000 special group, the other redeemed and the anihalated... or is that clearly a mistaken interpretation in the light of the last Bible's closeing word on the subject?

nope

never ever was a Jehovah Witness... Presbyterian yes...

interesting how people dodge answering

Answer 1

Actually, Revelation 20:9 does mention a group aligned with "the city", and this verse is immediately before the verses mentioned in this question. Incidentally, Jehovah's Witnesses are not "Russelists".


Revelation actually tells its readers the name of the city mentioned in this question; "the city" is called "New Jerusalem".

(Revelation 21:2) I saw also the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God


So, if this city is NEW Jerusalem, perhaps it makes sense to consider earthly OLD Jerusalem. Did Jehovah consider everyone outside that city to be "condemned", or did divine blessings project to the entire countryside, wherever true worshippers lived in the Promised Land?

Similarly, Jehovah's Witnesses consider the city of New Jerusalem to represent Christians with a heavenly hope (as a group). Those with an earthly hope do not enter heaven itself, but still enjoy all the blessings of perfect rule by God, Christ, and the 144,000 Kingdom administrators (kings and priests).

(Revelation 1:6) [Jesus] made [anointed Christians] to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father


All of Israel was sometimes referred to as a vast "camp", and so the language of Revelation refers also to a group of true worshippers outside the city but within God's blessed "camp".

(Revelation 20:9) [Satan and his forces] advanced over the breadth of the earth and encircled the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city.

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Answer 2

Due to the fact that these
Christians use the Protestant Old Testament which is lacking 7 entire books 2 (Tobias, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus/Sirach, Baruch, I Maccabees, and II Maccabees), 3 chapters of Daniel and 6 chapters of Esther may be one of the reasons they ask catholics so many questions.

For the Sola Scriptura this is too bad .
In the 16th c., Luther removed those books from the canon that lent support to orthodox doctrine, relegating them to an appendix. Removed in this way were books that supported such things as:

prayers for the dead (Tobit 12:12; 2 Maccabees 12:39-45),

Purgatory (Wisdom 3:1-7),

intercession of dead saints (2 Maccabees 15:14),

and intercession of angels as intermediaries (Tobit 12:12-15).

The lesson, though, is this: relying on the "Bible alone" is a bad idea; we are not to rely solely on Sacred Scripture to understand Christ's message. While Scripture is "given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" (2 Timothy 3:16-17), it is not sufficient for reproof, correction and instruction in righteousness. It is the Church that is the "pillar and ground of Truth" (1 Timothy 3:15)! Jesus did not come to write a book; He came to redeem us, and He founded a Sacramental Church through His apostles to show us the way. It is to them, to the Church Fathers, to the Sacred Deposit of Faith, to the living Church that is guided by the Holy Spirit, and to Scripture that we must prayerfully look.


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Answer 3

Jehovah, the King of eternity, now addresses readers of Revelation for the last time in the prophecy, saying: “Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end. Happy are those who wash their robes, that the authority to go to the trees of life may be theirs and that they may gain entrance into the city by its gates. Outside are the dogs and those who practice spiritism and the fornicators and the murderers and the idolaters and everyone liking and carrying on a lie.”—Revelation 22:12-15.

Once again, Jehovah God emphasizes his eternal sovereignty and the fact that what he first purposes he will at last perform. He is “coming quickly” to execute judgment and will reward those earnestly seeking him. (Hebrews 11:6) His standards determine who will be rewarded and who will be rejected. The clergy of Christendom have acted like “speechless dogs,” winking at the vices that Jehovah here describes. (Isaiah 56:10-12; see also Deuteronomy 23:18, New World Translation Reference Bible, footnote.) Certainly, they have ‘liked and carried on’ lying doctrines and dogmas and have totally ignored the counsel of Jesus to the seven congregations. Hence, they have no share in New Jerusalem.

Only those anointed Christians who truly “wash their robes” so as to be clean in Jehovah’s eyes are privileged to “go to the trees of life.” That is, they receive the right and title to immortal life in their heavenly position. (Compare Genesis 3:22-24; Revelation 2:7; 3:4, 5.) After their death as humans, they gain entrance into New Jerusalem by resurrection. The 12 angels allow them in, while keeping out any who practice lies or uncleanness though claiming to have a heavenly hope. The great crowd on earth also have “washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb” and need to maintain their clean standing. This they can do by avoiding the vices that Jehovah here warns against, as well as by taking to heart Jesus’ admonition in his seven messages to the congregations.—Revelation 7:14; chapters 2 and 3.

Answer 4

This is actually for BumpThis, there is a possibility that ex JW will be on an open forum, deal with it. You would be the one in the wrong by actually sending them a message back, which you could have ignored their question if you wanted to. Go confess your sins to your PO! You'll probably just get publicly reproved.

Answer 5

Are you disfellowshipped or an apostate? If so, you know the rules, you don't talk to witnesses. You know this so why are you doing it in the first place? You know what Jehovah's rules are on this, so stop it and don't address witnesses! You know the laws on this!