"Jews for Jesus", "Gay Republicans"....what are they thinking?

Question

Chancelikely,

Fair enough. But really, if there were a club whose benefits I'd greatly enjoy but they had a policy on their door that said " yeah...some benefits are not extended to blacks", you don't think it'd be a little foolish of me to join?

Answer 1

What's wrong with either? It's possible to believe in Jesus as a rabbi while stating that the Messianic prophecies aren't fulfilled in him, and it's certainly possible to believe in the original Republican concepts of limited government and personal responsibility while disagreeing with the current party's stance on homosexuality. I don't find either position to be logically inconsistent.

Answer 2

There's also a "Jews For Judaism" website. But really, Messianic Jews, such as Jews For Jesus, have been around for quite a while. As for gay Republicans, I know of some locally. I've also met some nice Christo-Pagans (Google it; Christian Pagan groups do exist). These things, while seeming like contradictions, do apparently work for some people. Each to his (or her) own.

Answer 3

what's wrong with gay republicans? i mean sure..i guess republicans tend to be christians...however, it should not be that way. Our government SHOULD be a secular one..one where it does not matter what your religious belief is because in the end, religion should not have anything to do with how the goverment works. And personally i think that there is NOTHING wrong with homosexuality besides the fact that the bible says it's an abomination (IF it even says that..some people disagree it directly talks about homosexuality but of male prositutes and pagan rituals).

Answer 4

jews for jesus are thinking that they are the best baptists at converting people by misdirection. gay republicans are most likely thinking that except for the views on homosexual rights, the republican party has some very good ideas..

Answer 5

Jews for Jesus aren't:

This is taken from the reference section of this article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_Jesus

1. “"We believe that Jewishness is a birthright. It is inherited from our parents. Our people are not of one culture; we have diverse cultural expressions (Ashkenazi/Sephardi, Georgian/Russian, Ethiopian, Persian, etc.). Our people are not of one religion. While Judaism might be the traditional religion for many Jewish people, Jews are still considered Jewish even though they might be atheists or even if they embrace other beliefs. Those who say that Jews who believe in Jesus are errant Jews or misguided Jews are entitled to their opinions. But they are not entitled to negate our Jewishness. We are Jews by birth and that cannot change."
2. "There is virtual unanimity across all denominations [of Judaism] that Jews for Jesus are not Jewish." (Kaplan, Dana Evan. The Cambridge Companion to American Judaism, Cambridge University Press, Aug 15, 2005, pp. 139-140).
3. "For most American Jews, it is acceptable to blend some degree of foreign spiritual elements with Judaism. The one exception is Christianity, which is perceived to be incompatible with any form of Jewishness. Jews for Jesus and other Messianic Jewish groups are thus seen as antithetical to Judaism and are completely rejected by the majority of Jews". (Kaplan, Dana Evan. The Cambridge Companion to American Judaism, Cambridge University Press, Aug 15, 2005, p. 9).
4. Jewish groups:
o "To make the record clear, Jews for Jesus is a Christian missionary organization – period." Jews for Jesus: Jewish or Christian? You Decide, Jews for Judaism website, retrieved September 11, 2006.
o "Messianic Jewish organizations, such as Jews for Jesus, often refer to their faith as fulfilled Judaism, in that they believe Jesus fulfilled the Messianic prophecies. Although Messianic Judaism claims to be Jewish, and many adherents observe Jewish holidays, most Jews regard Messianic Judaism as deceptive at best, fraudulent at worst. They charge that Messianic Judaism is actually Christianity presenting itself as Judaism." (Balmer, Randall. Encyclopedia of Evangelicalism, Baylor University Press, Nov 2004, p. 448).

Answer 6

Well now, I have a friend who is a gay Republican. I think it is a bit crazy, but his family were Republicans and he stayed with it. If you ask me a Christian Republican is also an oxymoron.

Answer 7

yeah like mixing oil and water isn't it.

Though I someone can be a Libertarian and Gay. To be a registered Republican is a stretch.

Answer 8

This is a bad subject because in some countries around us, Governments are killing preacher's . that preach against Gays...
And putting preacher's to death that preach against Gays. It is so scary.. WE all need to pray more, to get more goodness in this world.

Answer 9

Thinking? They're not.

They're hypocrites and afraid to admit it.

you can't be a jew if you believe in Jesus. It's like being a pro-choice christian.

Answer 10

Some strange mixes indeed...
As for me, I still take my Christianity straight.
(pun intended)