On close inspection of the eyes in the picture, the reflection of everyone in the room when the Tilma was unfolded was revealed.
2007-06-11 10:00:11 · 8 answers · asked by Midge 7 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Dr G and just what God is it that the Mother of Jesus tells us to run after. The Blessed Virgin Mary ALWAYS points to her son. She is standing in the river waiting until all of her beloved children come into the promised land just like the Ark of the Covenant in the Old Testament. You have been brainwashed by some Christian wannabe and you need our prayers sadly because you are blind.
2007-06-11 11:00:37 · update #1
Dusty Scribe: You shall know them by their fruits. The fruits here are of the Divine nature: healings and repentance. Why would the Evil One have people turn to Jesus for salvation? For one that is claiming to be so enlightened you are not very bright.
2007-06-11 11:03:47 · update #2
Great question Midge.
To JAT: the tilma exists. What do you make of that?
2007-06-11 10:25:11 · answer #1 · answered by Faustina 4 · 2⤊ 3⤋
LOL!
It's always funny to me that the "debunkers" are those with no direct contact.
Moose needs to do a little more research. The Shroud of Turin has not been proven a forgery. The carbon 14 testing was inaccurate.
The website at the link below is not run by a Catholic. It is run by a scientist. A member of the original STRUP team.
The most telling sign of the apparition at Guadalupe is something Fr. Mitch Pacwa pointed out.
While Martin Luther was leading 9 million Catholics out of the church in Germany, the Blessed Mother was bringing in 11 million in Mexico.
2007-06-11 18:59:32 · answer #2 · answered by Max Marie, OFS 7 · 1⤊ 1⤋
For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." -- Matthew 24:24 KJV......How does the blessed mary lead anyone to become a cathlotic or christian when the bible says that...jesus is the light the way and the salvation...so it would seem that he would lead people to be christian not anyone else....for the holy spirit works upon a man to help him desire to become good and follow in the ways of the lord......jeseus also said that we should never exalt anyone but him or that we should live by the law and that he had to come to prepare a way for all men to be saved......so when you say mary leads us to be saved you are sinning for jesus says he leads all to be saved and prepares a way for us to be saved....Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -- John 14:6 KJV...the truth in the false religion is that it will change times and law.....only a few religious groups have done this....compare the ten commandents in any bible to the greek versions of the bible and you will see for yourself who is doing this now.......
2007-06-12 02:35:18 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
Why do U need a response??? Scripture says; "Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed." John 20:29 Catholics are always trying to justify all types of things as Catholics are Idol Worshipers! Everywhere the "Spanish Conquest" went the "Padre", (so as not to Totally Whizz Off the Natives) allowed small bits of the "Pagan Religion" to continue which can be seen even Today!!! A Man Made Religion such as Catholicism always takes every opportunity to try to Prove they are the Only Religion that God performs "Miracles" for!!! How many Centuries did the Catholic church allow Worship of the "Shroud of Turrin" as the very cloth that Christ was wrapped in knowing full well, it wasn't???? The Scripture I quoted here says it is BETTER to have Believed and NOT had any PROOF as it requires MORE FAITH which is what God LOVES!!! John
2007-06-11 17:25:51 · answer #4 · answered by moosemose 5 · 2⤊ 3⤋
Just as there are two sides to a coin, there are two sides in the spiritual realm.
We were told that in the last days, "The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders..." (II Thessalonians 2:9)
I'm not surprised at all about such developments.
UPDATE: Midge, I'm sorry that you don't think I'm very bright. That's a shame. I am surprised that you made a personal attack on my intelligence. While I may not agree with Roman theology, I never slam a person practicing it.
2007-06-11 17:40:53 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 5⤊ 1⤋
"If there arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder come to pass, whereof he spake unto thee, saying, Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul." -- Deuteronomy 13:1-3 KJV
"In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them." -- 2 Corinthians 4:4 KJV
"And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light." -- 2 Corinthians 11:14 KJV
"The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going." -- Proverbs 14:15 KJV
"For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." -- Matthew 24:24 KJV
"But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father." Mark 13:32 KJV
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." -- John 8:44 KJV
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." -- 1 John 4:1 KJV
"Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen." -- 1 John 5:21 KJV
True Jesus followers never rebuke scripture. Even the devil knows every word, but *trembles* at the end of the Book. If you depend on the human, deceased Mary for "pointing to Jesus", I will pray for your deliverance in His Name. The Ark of the Covenant is the Mercy Seat of God, in the Holiest of Holy Room in the Tabernacle - you have no idea what that is! Hah! Because your Catholic worship does not allow you to break through in the Holy Spirit ("rent" the veil) to allow your spirit to be in the presence of God. THAT my friend is getting into the Holiest of Holy within the temple that God has made WITHIN YOU, IF you received Christ like the Bible instructs. Only through Jesus, not Mary, will this truth be revealed. Obviously, you need it:
"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." -- John 14:6 KJV
Hallelujah Almighty God!
2007-06-11 17:28:32 · answer #6 · answered by Dr. G™ 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
I think you will find everything surrounding Juan Diego, even his actual existence, a bit dodgy. Please consult Cambridge University Guadalupoligist David Brading and his thesis that the whole issue is fraught with forgery & misattribution.
In fact, before 1660, 130 years after the "miracles" there are no recorded instances of any mention of the legend.
2007-06-11 17:16:17 · answer #7 · answered by JAT 6 · 3⤊ 3⤋
this is one of my favorite and wonderful miracles.
I have never thought about what anyone else ever thought about OLG.... I just think about what she means to me personally......
if others can not believe in the miracle. and something that they can see with their own eyes, then I feel sad for them
2007-06-11 18:28:46 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋