Is the catholic church and orthodox the first christian churches founded by Peter and Jesus?

Question

because both churches claim that.

Answer 1

The Roman Catholic church is the only Christian church founded by our Lord Jesus and based on the solid foundation of the Rock of Peter, the Pope. The Orthodox church are schismatics. They separated from the Roman catholic church in 1054. They do not accept the divinely instituted authority of the Vicar of Christ (the Pope) , celibacy in priests, and the insertion of the ' filioque clause' in the Nicene Creed among other factors.

In the Orthodox tradition, the line in question reads "We believe in the Holy Spirit ... who proceeds from the Father", while in the Catholic tradition it reads "We believe in the Holy Spirit ... who proceeds from the Father and the Son". It is most often referred to as simply "filioque" or "the filioque." Difference of a few words but a big difference in meaning. The Catholic church would rather lose a big chunk of its followers than compromise on a few words that distort truth.

All denominations falsely claim to be church of Christ but the Roman Catholic church is the only true Bride of Christ since it is the only one that has had St.Peter as its first Pope whose direct successor is Pope Benedict XVl among other truths.

Answer 2

1) The Church compiled the Bible in the forth century. The Bible is not the basis for the Church, the Church is the basis for the Bible. The early Christians had no Bible or Scripture yet they existed. The Apostles taught the faith Jesus gave them and created the Church.

2) The Church was one until the 11th century. There was no Orthodox or Catholic Church. The split occurred primarily due to the growing claims of supremacy of the Pope over all the other Churches of Christianity. The reformation of the 16th century further split the Catholic church for essentially the same reasons.

3) As the Apostles traveled the world they founded local Churches and ordained Bishops. Peter along with many other places founded the Church in Rome. He did not create the Church. The Apostle Andrew is acknowledged for founding the Church int he East what today is referred to as Greek Orthodox. Other Apostles founded Churches in other parts of the world.

4) Since Both the Catholic and Orthodox church come from the original Churches established by the Apostles they do have an accurate claim to being there form the beginning.

Answer 3

Peter and the apostles didn't want to form a new religion, they wanted to change the Jewish faith to accept the teachings of Jesus, recognizing Him as the Christ. When they failed to do that through the hierarchy, the followers and converts they had made continued in their own form of Judaism. This continued to evolve with some of the Jewish laws being discarded (eating pork, being circumcised, etc.) through the councils and letters of the original twelve apostles.

Eventually, there was no hope of being both, a faithful Jew and a faithful follower of Jesus (or Christian) because of these differences. Thus the first Christian faith was created with Peter as the leader and an established hierarchy of bishops, teachers, etc. It was known as the "catholic" (universal) church because it was the only Christian faith their was.

As differences continued to divide us there was a split of the "Roman Catholic" and the "Eastern Orthodox". Both of these could still claim apostolic succession, yet only one remained with Peter's line. Then later, the reformation split to create other faiths. These other Christian faiths left any concern for apostolic succession behind in order to leave what they saw as a corrupt and political mockery of Jesus’ teachings. That was one of several times when the Roman Catholic Church became too secular in action even though they did not err in teachings.

One of the things I find interesting is that in the Roman Catholic Church, only a priest can…
+ consecrate the bread and wine into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus
+ absolve someone of their sins in persona Christi.
Many of their other sacraments can be done by others. For instance, anyone can baptize so long as the correct form is used; the priest is a “witness” at a marriage ceremony (the couple marry themselves).

I have noticed that the two sacraments that are reserved for the Catholic priesthood are the same two sacraments that the Protestants dropped. It’s as if they agreed with the Catholic Church that they could not do these two things without apostolic succession.

Something to ponder.

Answer 4

The Orthodox and Catholic churches split away from each other around 1000 A.D., due to politics and some nasty confrontations. Up to that point there was only one church. Each claims to be the one true church. In my estimation it is the Catholic church that holds the strongest claim to being the original church, primarily because it has maintained the apostolic succession of the papacy from Peter all the way up to our current pope, Benedict XVI. One of the highest aims of the Catholic church in our day is to reunite the Orthodox and Catholic churches. They are so similar that almost nothing would have to change to accomplish this. There are a few theological differences but in the essentials there are identical. Please pray for the unification of these two ancient churches.

Answer 5

Yes, both the Catholic and Orthodox Churches can rightfully claim origin in Jesus Christ. The Catholic and Orthodox Churches were one until the Schism of 1054.

Answer 6

Catholic and E Orthodox Churches were one Church for over 1000 years and tragically split mostly over church anf civil politics. I believe that the Catholic church was the one founded by Christ upon Peter and his office. The Orthodox Churches are a close second.

Answer 7

Yes they both were founded by Christ and the disciples and none other. The Church forms around the bishop in apostolic succession as taught by St. Ignatius and testified to in Scriptures. Both Churches maintain apostolic succcession and through that succession both have claim to the true original Church founded by Christ. Both the Orthodox and the Catholic Church have the promise that they will never fall into apostasy and that they are the "bulwark and ground of the truth" as Scriptures attest. Neither are man-made as are subsequent Churches of the Reformation and so called restoration churches.

In Christ
Fr. Joseph

Answer 8

No. The catholic Church was the first and ONLY Church founded by Jesus Christ upon the Apostles, and the only Church Christ ever intended to exist. The Orthodox Church was founded more than 1,000 years later, through schism from the Church founded by Christ.

Answer 9

The Catholic Church was founded by Jesus, not Peter. Peter was to be temporary head of the Church along with his successors (the popes) until Jesus' return. John 21: 15-18: "Feed my lambs" "Tend my sheep" "Feed my sheep". These are the roles of a shepherd. We all know that Jesus is the "Good Shepherd", but he gave Peter a temporary shepherd's task while he was away. So Jesus founded the Church and Peter, along with his successors, watches over the it. Peace!

Answer 10

Historically, this is demonstrable. Most ordained clergy in these two churches can actually show you the list of who laid hands on whom in their ordination history, going all the way back to one of the apostles.

The letters of the church elders of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd centuries clearly show continuity between the well-organized public churches of today, and the early missionary churches of then.

Some will try and say that no, it isn't so. But to do so they MUST claim that the church failed on Earth despite Jesus claim that would never happen, since for 1500 years, there were no other churches (other than the Armenians and Copts, who broke off in the 4th and 5th centuries.)