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2007-06-11 02:59:25 · 8 answers · asked by sillystar 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I don't care about it.
Does that count?

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2007-06-11 03:03:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I do not agree.

I agree that there were bad popes...but this does not condemn the entire Catholic Church. There are always sinful people...but God will deal with them.

Martin Luther was a heretic. He made a heck of a mess...he even admitted to it shortly before he died. He was lamented that he had tried to fight against one bad pope and had made hundreds of popes.

I'm a convert to Catholicism. I was raised Methodist. As a protestant I knew only that Martin Luther had posted his 95 theses on the door of the church. He was seen as a hero. Now that I'm Catholic...I've found out much more about Martin Luther. He was a renegade, disillusioned priest.

Check out some of the stuff he's quoted as saying:
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2006/06/martin-luther-super-pope-and-de-facto.html

http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2006/11/luther-lutheranism-index-page.html

2007-06-11 03:13:53 · answer #2 · answered by Misty 7 · 0 0

for your information, NewCatholic, the Church at the time of Martin Luther was nothing like the church that Jesus started. they were selling salvation. Are you OK with the church allowing people to pay money for "guaranteed salvation"? Becuase that's exactly the kind of thing he was protesting.

2007-06-11 03:19:19 · answer #3 · answered by tdubya86 3 · 1 0

martin luther did the right thing. he knew what he believed and fought for it. that is why people who became protestants tended to be more practicing christians rather than get over dependent on what church authority in rome says.

2007-06-11 03:04:19 · answer #4 · answered by larkton 3 · 0 0

Only fools who believe that the priesthood at the time was doing the right thing by extorting money from the ignorant masses

2007-06-11 03:03:35 · answer #5 · answered by John C 6 · 0 0

Well,

I used to be Protestant and now am Catholic....

Why follow a man that came 1600 years after Jesus instead of the Church that Jesus himself started?

Even though the Catholic Church was having a bad time back then, he should have worked it out within the faith.

Peace!

2007-06-11 03:04:39 · answer #6 · answered by C 7 · 0 1

Whatever else he did is debatable , but he took a vow on his honor and his god to remain chaste for life. He broke that vow. That means that he is without honor, and that he spit in the face of his God.

2007-06-11 03:06:02 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Luther Said: 'Be A Sinner'

"Be a sinner, and let your sins be strong, but let your trust in Christ be stronger, and rejoice in Christ who is the victor over sin, death, and the world. We will commit sins while we are here, for this life is not a place where justice resides... No sin can separate us from Him, even if we were to kill or commit adultery thousands of times each day." ('Let Your Sins Be Strong, from 'The Wittenberg Project;' 'The Wartburg Segment', translated by Erika Flores, from Dr. Martin Luther's
Saemmtliche Schriften, Letter No. 99, 1 Aug. 1521.)


Luther is actually saying that our actions -- even the most sinful actions imaginable -- don't matter! He is saying we can commit any sin we want -- willfully, presumptiously, purposefully -- and we will not separate ourselves from God! After all, we require nothing more than "faith" to be saved. What we do is incidental. Of course anyone familiar with Scripture will point out that this is not a Christian teaching. For throughout the Bible we are told that sin can and does separate us from God -- remember how he will separate the sheep from the goats, (Mt. 25:32) and the wheat from the tares, (Mt. 13:30), and the
bearing trees from the barren (Mt. 3:10.)

The writer of Hebrews is clear: We will be judged on how we live out our faith. And sin will ensure our judgment is harsh: "If we sin deliberately after receiving knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains sacrifice for sins but a fearful prospect of judgment and a flaming fire that is going to consume the adversaries." (Heb. 10:26-29.) For the redemption that Jesus earned for us -- a free gift -- is not imposed on the unwilling. We must choose it and embrace it and , very often, suffer for it. "'Whoever wishes to come after me must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow me.'" (Mt. 16:24.)


Luther Said: Doing Good Is More Dangerous Than Sinning

"Those pious souls who do good to gain the Kingdom of Heaven not only will never succeed, but they must even be reckoned among the impious; and it is more important to guard them against good works than against sin." (Wittenberg, VI, 160, quoted by O'Hare, in 'The Facts About Luther, TAN Books, 1987, p. 122.)


You must be thinking, "What? Could he possibly have written what I thought I just read? 'It is more important to guard them against good works than against sin.'" Well okay, read it again, just to make sure. We'll wait.

See? You were right the first time. Luther cautions us against good and upright actions. He says, don't worry about sin -- Jesus will take care of it. But doing good -- that you'd better watch out for. Especially if you think being kind and generous and loving will affect your outcome at the final judgment.

In his hubris, he ignores verse after verse of Scripture -- New Testament and Old -- where we are told that the way we live out our faith will be the criterion upon which we will be judged. As Paul makes eminently clear in Rom. 2: 5-11, "...the just judgment of God, who will repay everyone according to his works." And again in 2 Cor. 5:10, "For we must all appear before the judgment seat... so that each one may receive recompense , according to what he did in the body, whether good
or evil."

Luther was utterly and monumentally wrong -- wrong for the ages. Where does it say in Scripture that we can wreak unprovoked havoc on our brothers and sisters and cynically murder a thousand people a day and expect -- poof! -- to be saved? Nowhere, obviously.

Only true repentance can heal the rift that sin creates between the individual and God -- the kind of true repentance one evidences through facing one's sins squarely and honestly and saying them out loud in the sacrament of Reconciliation. And it is highly doubtful that a person like, say, Adolph Hitler -- the only man I can think of who ever came anywhere near the thousand-a-day murder quota that Luther stipulates -- would ever muster true repentance, even at the point of death. If he
did, of course, he would be saved. But imagine how big that 'if' would have to be. And Luther doesn't mention repentance, even in passing, anywhere in the passage.


Luther Said: There Is No Free Will

"...with regard to God, and in all that bears on salvation or damnation, (man) has no 'free-will', but is a captive, prisoner and bondslave, either to the will of God, or to the will of Satan." (From the essay, 'Bondage of the Will,' 'Martin Luther: Selections From His Writings, ed. by Dillenberger, Anchor Books, 1962 p. 190.)

"...we do everything of necessity, and nothing by 'free-will'; for the power of 'free-will' is nil..." (Ibid., p. 188.)

"Man is like a horse. Does God leap into the saddle? The horse is obedient and accommodates itself to every movement of the rider and goes whither he wills it. Does God throw down the reins? Then Satan leaps upon the back of the animal, which bends, goes and submits to the spurs and caprices of its new rider... Therefore, necessity, not free will, is the controlling principle of our conduct. God is the author of what is evil as well as of what is good, and, as He bestows happiness on
those who merit it not, so also does He damn others who deserve not their fate." ('De Servo Arbitrio', 7, 113 seq., quoted by O'Hare, in 'The Facts About Luther, TAN Books, 1987, pp. 266-267.)


All these passages come from a tract Luther penned, titled, 'De Servo Arbitrio ,' or 'Bondage of the Will,' in which the great reformer works hard to present the case that free will does not exist

2007-06-11 03:05:04 · answer #8 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 0 0

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