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I'm starting a Bible study about the nature of God and I'm totally scattershot as I'm trying to compile my notes. I know the Bible clearly teaches the Trinitarian nature of God, the deity of Jesus and the person of the Holy Spirit, but I'm looking especially for websites that have a comprehensive list of verses clearly showing each of these aspects of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. It would be especially helpful for ongoing conversations with some of my coworkers. Also regarding the deity of Jesus, what are all the verses that show He did things only God can do (such as forgiving sins)?

2007-06-10 23:29:41 · 11 answers · asked by Michael S 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

LineDancer, if God is not a Trinity and Jesus is not God, back up your answer by showing me from the Bible the basis for your answer.

Prophet John, there's absolutely no way ANY of us can know when Jesus is coming back, so I think your claim that Jesus is coming back in the (human) year 3500 is a real stretch.

2007-06-11 00:12:53 · update #1

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I have had to talk tackle this subject numerous time due to the fact that my parents are involved in the "oneness" movement (which is the notion that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all one, and they are all Jesus). This movement is often called "Jesus-only" but it is very close to the unorthodox view called Modalism. To find quick answers to your question, just google "modalism" and you should find all the information you will need.

I think you have set out on a noble task. Most people shy away from teaching doctrine, even though 1 Tim 4:16 states that it is part of the way to evangelize others. If you start to examine other non-mainstream denominations, you will quickly notice that the issues of the nature of God and salvation are the primary areas where they stray. If you can get your students to grasp these important concepts, they will be well served and shielded from false teachings.

To specifically answer your question though: I basically looked at a couple resource books (Willimgton's Guide to the Bible is a good one) and a few websites (CARM and bible.ca are a good starting point). Then I went to the task of reading over the New Testament repeatedly. What you will find is that you can't get more than a few pages without easily finding verses that show the Trinity. A few of my favorites are John 1:1-14, 1 Cor 15:12-28. & John 17.

Whenever I teach this matter I usually start by showing through the Scriptures that the Father, Jesus & the Holy Spirit are God. And then I show their differences.

I would be more than happy to email you a few word documents of past lessons. Also I have a copy of an email discussion I carried on with a United Pentecostal Minister, that I think does a good job showing the differences in our two beliefs.

God bless you and your students
John

2007-06-11 10:17:16 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

To find a verse that supports the trinity, you will have to either misquote the verse, or use improper English.

We should all have the same mentality of Christ Jesus.

Rom 15:5 Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant YOU to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, 6 that with one accord YOU may with one mouth glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.


We should believe what John believed.

Rev 1:1 A revelation by Jesus Christ, which God gave him, to show his slaves the things that must shortly take place. And he sent forth his angel and presented [it] in signs through him to his slave John, 6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.

What about Peter

1 Pet 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ,

And let us not forget what Jesus taught

Rev 3:12 “‘The one that conquers—I will make him a pillar in the temple of my God, and he will by no means go out [from it] anymore, and I will write upon him the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem which descends out of heaven from my God,

Finally we have the testimony of the God who can not lie. (Titus 1:2)

Matt 3:17 Look! Also, there was a voice from the heavens that said: “This is my Son, the beloved, whom I have approved.”

2007-06-12 12:02:49 · answer #2 · answered by TeeM 7 · 0 0

The false doctrine of the Trinity originated with the Council of Nice around 300 A.D.

There was a lot of argument about the body of God and what He is like. By a non-unanimous vote, this incomprehensible image of God became the accepted norm.

This is what the Bible says:

Acts 7:55-57 Stephen saw Jesus Christ and His father standing next to each other just BEFORE the mob took him out of the city to kill him. (This was not a dying vision.)

Matthew 3:13-17 Jesus' baptism. After He was baptized, the Holy Ghost descended in the form of a dove. His Father spoke from heaven, and called Jesus "My Beloved Son"(not, "This is Me"). All three members of the Godhead were there, distinctly different from each other, and not the same being.

In John chapter 17, Jesus prayed to His Father, He talked about His Father as another person who gave Him commandments. He also commanded us to pray to the Father in Jesus' name. He always said that He did His Father's will, not His own.

In John 17:21 He explained what being one with God means: being one in love, one in purpose, one in action. He also said that we are to be one with Him. This does not mean that we become Him, but that we try to become like Him.

2007-06-11 10:51:58 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

besides the indisputable fact that the Trinity doctrine is basically the IMPLICIT word of God in scripture, there are various verses that do refer to the Trinity. including: Matthew 28:19, 2 Cor. 13:13, one million Peter one million:2, John 14:26 & Romans 15:30 and so on.. The authority to formulate the Trinity is from Matthew sixteen:18:19 & 18:18. The Trinity doctrine itself is basically the reason & the end results of the scriptural evidence that each and every person is God. devoid of the Trinity clarification, the scriptural evidence that each and every person is God nevertheless keeps to be intact.

2016-10-07 07:01:51 · answer #4 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

There is no supporting verse of Jesus being in a trinity. But there are verses that show that the trinity has been adopted from Babylonian teachings.

Jeremiah was appalled by women adopting the Canaan pagan trinity. That is Tammuz, Baal and Ashtaroth.
(Jdg 2:13 and Eze 8:14,15)

ISAIAH 9: 6 JESUS CALLED “GOD.”

At Isaiah 43:10 Jehovah says: “Before me no god was formed, nor shall there be any after me.” Does this mean that, because Jesus Christ is prophetically called “Mighty God” at Isaiah 9:6,

Jesus must be Jehovah?

Again, the context answers, No! None of the idolatrous Gentile nations formed a god before Jehovah, because no one existed before Jehovah. Nor would they at a future time form any real, live god that was able to prophesy. (Isa. 46:9, 10)

But that does not mean that Jehovah never caused to exist anyone who is properly referred to as a god. (Ps. 82:1, 6; John 1:1, NW) At Isaiah 10:21 Jehovah is referred to as “mighty God,” just as Jesus is in Isaiah 9:6; but only Jehovah is ever called “God Almighty.”—Gen. 17:1.

“He [Jesus] . . . gave no consideration to a seizure, namely, that he should be equal to God.” (Philippians 2:6) He is called Mighty God, not Almighty God. Jesus never thought of himself as God Almighty, for he spoke of his Father as “the only true God,” that is, the only God who should be worshiped. (John 17:3; Revelation 4:11)

2007-06-13 04:20:57 · answer #5 · answered by keiichi 6 · 0 0

The trinity teaches that the God & jhis son && his spirit are all coequal.

However, the Scriptures state otherwise. Please note:


“The head of every man is the Christ; in turn the head of a woman is the man;

in turn the HEAD of the CHRIST is GOD.” (1 Corinthians 11:3)


Christ himself called his Father his GOD:

Jesus said to her: “Stop clinging to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father and to MY GOD and your God.’” (John 20:17)

IF Jesus were equal to his God-&-Father, he would NOT be subordinate to his Father, or, even have a God.


The words “in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one” (KJV) found in older translations at 1 John 5:7 are actually spurious additions to the original text. . . .

A footnote in The Jerusalem Bible, a Catholic translation, says that these words are “not in any of the early Greek MSS [manuscripts], or any of the early translations, or in the best MSS of the Vulg[ate] itself.”

A Textual Commentary on the Greek New Testament, by Bruce Metzger (1975, pp. 716-718), traces in detail the history of the spurious passage. It states that the passage is first found in a treatise entitled Liber Apologeticus, of the fourth century, and that it appears in Old Latin and Vulgate manuscripts of the Scriptures, beginning in the sixth century.

Modern translations as a whole, both Catholic and Protestant, do not include them in the main body of the text, because of recognizing their spurious nature.—RS, NE, NAB, TEV, JB, NWT.



When saying, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:30), did Jesus mean that they were equal?

Notice what Jesus prayed regarding his followers at John 17:21-22 . . .

“That they may all be one,” and he added, “that they may be one even as we are one.”

He used the same Greek word (hen) for “one” in all these instances.

Obviously, Jesus’ disciples do NOT all become part of the Trinity. But they do come to share a ONENESS of PURPOSE with the Father and the Son, the same sort of oneness that unites God and Christ.


The Bible supports that Christ was of divine nature, but, that is not the same as being God, or, equal to God. The scriptural definition of 'divine' is:

"That which belongs to God or pertains to him, that which is godlike or heavenly."

For example . . . Hebrews 1:3 states about Christ:

"He is the reflection of God’s glory and the exact representation of his very being,"

2015-09-28 21:47:36 · answer #6 · answered by Horsense 7 · 0 0

I don't believe Jesus was God, but here is a video of Dr. Zakir Naik explaining the context of various qoutes the Christians use to support their claim Jesus claimed Divinity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QP9pl1558pc

2007-06-10 23:37:52 · answer #7 · answered by By Any Means Necessary 5 · 0 0

The Bible does not support the trinity in the least. The trinity is based on the Catholic Athanasian Creed, not on the Bible. In part, it says: "Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the Catholic Faith. So there is One Father, not Three Fathers; one Son, not Three Sons; One Holy Ghost, not Three Holy Ghosts. And in this Trinity none is afore or after Other, None is greater or less than Another, but the whole Three Persons are Co-eternal together, and Co-equal."

Early Christians of the first century did not believe in it. They did not worship a triune god. There is absolutely no Scriptural grounds for believing in the trinity.

You are going to get plenty of scriptures from others who think the Bible supports the trinity. Compare them with the COMPLETE definition of the trinity. You will see that there is no verse in the Bible that says the Father, Son, and holy spirit are co-equal or co-eternal. Instead, it says that Jehovah is the Most High. (Ps. 83:18) At John 17:3, he is called the Only true God. Jesus is NOT God; he's God's Son. (John 10:36) The holy spirit is God's power or active force. (Gen. 1:2)

I already backed up my answer with Scripture. The trinity teaches that God is composed of 3 co-equal, co-eternal persons. NO scripture in the Bible says that. God is a single person whose name is Jehovah. (Ps. 83:18)

Jesus is God's Son, not God. When the angel Gabriel announced Jesus' upcoming birth as a human, what did he say Jesus would be called? God? Look at Luke 1:32, 35: "This one will be great and will be called SON of the Most High; and Jehovah God will give him the throne of David his father. Holy spirit will come upon you, and power of the Most High will overshadow you. For that reason also what is born will be called holy, God’s SON."

Did Jesus' enemies think he was God? John 19:7 says: "The Jews answered [Pilate]: “We have a law, and according to the law he ought to die, because he made himself God’s son." At Matt. 27:40, 43, Jesus' enemies said: "O you would-be thrower-down of the temple and builder of it in three days, save yourself! If you are the Son of God, come down off the torture stake. He has put his trust in God; let Him now rescue him if He wants him, for he said, ‘I am God’s Son."

So even Jesus' enemies knew he claimed to be, not God, but God's Son.

Who did Jesus say was God? At John 17:3, he said his Father was the ONLY true God. And instead of claiming equality with his Father, Jesus said at John 14:28: "The Father is greater than I am."

It is true that Isa. 9:6 refers to Jesus as "Mighty God," but that is a title that did not apply to him until after his death and resurrection. (Phil. 2:9) He was not Almighty God. That title is reserved for Jehovah only. "And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob as God Almighty, but as respects my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them." (Ex. 6:3)

The holy spirit is NOT a person. THE Bible's use of "holy spirit" indicates that it is a controlled force that Jehovah God uses to accomplish a variety of his purposes. To a certain extent, it can be likened to electricity, a force that can be adapted to perform a great variety of operations.

At Genesis 1:2 the Bible states that "God's active force ["spirit" (Hebrew, ru'ach)] was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters." Here, God's spirit was his active force working to shape the earth.

The Catholic Encyclopedia: "Nowhere in the Old Testament do we find any clear indication of a Third Person."

A Catholic Dictionary: "On the whole, the New Testament, like the Old, speaks of the spirit as a divine energy or power."

The New Catholic Encyclopedia: “The O[ld] T[estament] clearly does not envisage God’s spirit as a person . . . God’s spirit is simply God’s power. If it is sometimes represented as being distinct from God, it is because the breath of Yahweh acts exteriorly.” It also says: “The majority of N[ew] T[estament] texts reveal God’s spirit as something, not someone; this is especially seen in the parallelism between the spirit and the power of God.”

Hence, neither the Jews nor the early Christians viewed the holy spirit as part of a Trinity. That teaching came centuries later. As A Catholic Dictionary notes: "The third Person was asserted at a Council of Alexandria in 362 . . . and finally by the Council of Constantinople of 381"—some three and a half centuries after holy spirit filled the disciples at Pentecost!

2007-06-10 23:33:12 · answer #8 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 1 1

You need a systematic theology study guide. Your best bet would be a visit to a good Christian bookstore, especially one frequented by seminary students. Berkhof has a study of doctrines that I taught once and found to be helpful.

2007-06-10 23:40:37 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Try this website. Call or write, ask for their study called: Is Jesus God?
http://www.StoneKingdom.org

2007-06-11 03:08:47 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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