Once SAVED......?????

Question

Jesus said the Father would send us the Holy Spirit who would abide with us forever. If you are saved it is written you are sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. Hebrews chap. 6 does not say you lose your salvation. It talks about repentance. Forever sounds like forever to me. I have seen this for many years and had no idea what a calvinist was until recently.

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Answer 1

faith without works is dead

Answer 2

This is very easy, salvation is like Jesus. The word enters your heart and your recreated into a new creation. Once you were dead in your sins/ now your alive in Him.
The same way you accepted Him, you can also reject Him.
It's the decietfulness of sin, the problem with this is, you don't know you have rejected Him because your to busy in your sin.
Sin hardens the heart, sin draws you away from God, at some point you eventually refuse the word any place in your life. Jesus becomes a ticket stub, an excuse to continue living in sin and think your going to heaven. There is a sin that leads to death, and any sin that you continually do after you know it is a sin, may eventually lead you down the road to rejection. It's a fine line, and no one can underestimate the love and forgiveness of God in our lives. So only the Lord knows when you reach this point, not even you do. Look in Revelations, the lady Jezebel was given a time to repent, she would not so... She knew she was doing wrong, and was given time to repent. She continued to do wrong until Jesus declared that she will never repent. Only he knows the heart and can reach into your secret places and understand your future. It's better to live with him, than live with the thought of him. He saves as long as you keep room in your heart for him to move. Once sins begins to fill you, you push him out of your heart.

Answer 3

Very good. If God has the power to save you, and call you, and predestine you and foreknow you, and sanctify you, and even glorify you, then not only is this "once saved, always saved" -- it's salvation from eternity to eternity! That's something to be very, very happy about, especially when you deserve what everybody else does, from Adam forward, and that is condemnation and nothing but.

By the way, "being chosen" is no reason for the Calvinist to be smug about his or her salvation. All it takes is one look at where God could have left you, and you're in sackcloth and ashes in your humility.

Answer 4

Yes if you have the Holy Spirit that is forever, but if you look at Judas Iscariot's life you would see how he walked right up to receiving the Holy Spirit and then rejected the promise, but he is not alone in this anti-Christ spirit and he was not the last person to reject God's grace, you can see from this forum how so many people that maybe were once Christians now reject Christ for so many reasons and put Jesus Christ back on the cross in their own lives as Hebrews chapter 6 says; 4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
You must understand Judas was one of the men that healed the sick and did many miracles in Jesus name and saw the power of God and ended his life repenting for killing an innocent man; Matthew 27:4 Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.
Now Peter also denied him but did not betray him, but Jesus told Peter at the last supper when he is converted to feed his sheep; Luke 22:32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.
You see Peter had revelations and walked on water and was with the Lord Jesus for 3-1/2 years but was yet to be converted by the experience with the Holy Spirit

Answer 5

You might want to look at Rev.3:1-5.Here you can read that the church of Sardis is told to be watchful and strengthen the things which are ready to die.The are told that they needed to overcome or else their names would be taken out of the book of life.Most people who believe this doctrine say that if you go lost then you were never really saved.But here we can read that they were saved because their names were in the book of life and now they may have them blotted out.Our security is eternal as long as we remain in Christ but no man that puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the kingdom of heaven.

Answer 6

The Calvinist Arminist debate. This is why one should never play baseball with a Baptist as soon as you get on first you think once safe always safe. I tend to believe that people can fall away. Just as they once had faith they lose it or get caught up in the day to day and lose focus.

Answer 7

I've heard the "once saved always saved" doctrine before but it doesn't seem to make any logical sense. The reason I say that is because any person can choose to walk away from God after they become saved. I don't see why they would want to, but I suppose it could happen. It's like saying "Look, I appreciate the gift you've given me, but I just don't want it anymore." God is not going to force anyone to follow Him, period. It's one thing to be saved and to slip up and commit sin because of personal weakness, but it's quite another to just walk away. I think that a person who commits willful sin continuously effectively walks away from God. Therefore, you can't be saved and commit willful, continuous sin. It just doesn't work. Hope I made some sense.

Answer 8

Be vigilent and do not say to yourself "I am saved, there is nothing that I can do or fail to do that would cause me to lose faith." I was very religious when I was younger, I even spent a couple of years at a religious apostolate. Then I re-entered the world and turned my back on God. I lived like the prodigal son for a number of years, and then God in His mercy restored my faith. Now I live in humility, crying out to God for forgiveness like the tax collector in the synagogue. Do not be like the pharisee next to him who was overly confident of his own virtue. If you are not careful your faith can be swallowed up by the cares of this world.

Answer 9

Who is actual saviour?
Savior: Repeatedly the Scriptures refer to God as Savior. At Isaiah 43:11 God even says: “Besides me there is no savior.” Since Jesus is also referred to as Savior, are God and Jesus the same? Not at all. Titus 1:3, 4 speaks of “God our Savior,” and then of both “God the Father and Christ Jesus our Savior.” So, both persons are saviors. Jude 25 shows the relationship, saying: “God, our Savior through Jesus Christ our Lord.” (Italics added.) (See also Acts 13:23.) At Judges 3:9, the same Hebrew word (moh•shi′a‛, rendered “savior” or “deliverer”) that is used at Isaiah 43:11 is applied to Othniel, a judge in Israel, but that certainly did not make Othniel Jehovah, did it? A reading of Isaiah 43:1-12 shows that verse 11 means that Jehovah alone was the One who provided salvation, or deliverance, for Israel; that salvation did not come from any of the gods of the surrounding nations.

Answer 10

We are by faith made new. We have not died and been transformed. What we have we have in faith. If a man loses his faith where is his salvation?

Edit to punter...Christ is God...when you finally get it...It will all make sense to you.. Punter, Christians believe in ONE God.
The Father, Son and Holy Spirit are ONE God. God is the Savior Chrsit is the Savior, They are ONE God.

Answer 11

I'm not sure I see a question here. Yes, once you have accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior you are indeed saved forever. It is also true that some Christians deny this basic doctrine. I have tried and tried to show them the simple truth, very few listen.