well from my perspective, just because we don't know where it came from, it doesn't prove god's existance, it only proves that we don't yet have any understanding of it. However the possibility of a god or superior being cannot be ruled out.
2007-06-10 18:09:25
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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*sigh*
You just don't get it, do you?
*SOME* atheists will tell you that they believe that the universe came from nothing. Others will disagree. Don't group all atheists together, that's number one. Atheists are united only by lack of belief, not by anything that they necessarily agree upon.
Now, I don't know how the universe came into being. I accept it as a mystery. I don't need to create some sort of imagined, supernatural entity to explain that mystery. I don't need a god of the gaps (apparently, you do).
No one knows where the universe came from, or what caused the big bang. Anyone who says that they do is lying. However, the string hypothesis gives us the best answer as of yet. It appears that our universe was created by the collision of two muti-dimensional branes. That answer, however, remains theoretical.
In summary, you've committed two logical fallacies here. The first is that not all atheists believe that something came from nothing (which can also happen with something called quantum fluctuation). Most atheists that I speak with have no belief about the beginning of the universe. They accept it as a mystery.
The second logical fallacy that you've committed here is called the "god of the gaps" fallacy. You've taken something that we don't know about - the beginning of the universe - and you've looked at a gap in knowledge. You see this as a rationale for belief in a god/gods. This is not the case. You've taken something that we know absolutely nothing about, and attributed it to a divine source of power. This is, in essence, what the people of the ancient world did to explain things that they didn't understand, but that are now explicable through empirical observation and accurate models.
2007-06-10 18:18:25
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answered by Dylan H 3
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You are right, ultimately there are questions out there that we can't answer. Yet atheists believe that it is possible to someday find the answers through science and technology. "Atheist" simply means without god or without religion. It is not about BELIEF that god doesn't exist. It is the absence of belief. We are skeptical about the existence of god because we do not see any evidence for it. I feel that there probably is no god, but I do not call myself an agnostic because that suggests permanent indecision, or a 50/50 chance for god's existence, which is too watered down for me.
I would rather lay awake at night wondering why the universe, or anything for that matter exists, than wondering about god, because at least I live in the universe and I know that it is real.
What is this person talking about Biblical prophecy? You can believe whatever you want, that doesn't make it true.
2007-06-10 18:30:01
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answered by Anonymous
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A. I do not laugh at the religious people for believing in god, as long as they do not try to force it upon me.
B.That is precisely the point we are driving at. It is mentioned god created everything and nothing can be created without god. So when we ask if that is so, then who created god. The answer is god is outside time and space. So when we ask, in that case, can't the non-organic universe be created out from nothingness and outside time and space? The answer is " "No, because god created everything and ....." then the circular logic.
C. It is double standard to have one logic for 1 item and another logic for the 2nd item.
D. The existence of a god is hard to believe because there is no logic to it. A god that powerful is so powerless?
2007-06-10 18:23:15
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answered by Anonymous
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I have to agree with J D. Yes I am a Christian. I looked up pair production and it has nothing to do with producing matter from nothing. There is still energy and matter involved in this. So you haven't proven anything Eri unless I am missing something. The Brane theory and M-Theory are also just theories. Scientists are increasingly becoming frustrated at being unable to conclusively prove Evolution. They cannot be proven because we are talking of past events. The only one who could know 100% is God and he has told us, whether you believe him or not. Plus how can you explain away Biblical prophecy? If God can be right in that, why not in how He made the world?
2007-06-10 18:24:41
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answered by Anonymous
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First off, modern scientific theory suggests that the universe came from an expanding singularity. Not "nothing". As opposed the the Christian sky fairy who evidently existed for a near eternity, got bored, and simply "wished" the universe into existence all at once, deliberately arranging things so that it only LOOKED billions of years old when it actually wasn't for the sole purpose of fooling a bunch of skeptics into becoming further skeptical.
Yeah. Sure.
2007-06-10 18:13:52
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answered by Scott M 7
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Well I think of it like this. In Christianity or Religion specifically, the answer to everything is, Because god says so,, because god did it, because god says it. There is no fluctuation..
Theories of science offer many different answers and welcome even more questions.
Plate Tectonics, a theory about the live planet we live on. Fossils, a theory about the evolution of many species from single celled organism. The Universe and many theories of its existence and how gravity controls orbit.
There is no restriction on science. You try and try again until you have a permanent outcome, then it becomes truth.There is also no single answer to science. The truth is we do not know anything,none of us but we try to know, we don't just accept, we try.
2007-06-10 18:18:43
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answered by JUDAS RAGE 4
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Everyone's going to have different beliefs...it's easier for me to believe in scientific theories rather than believe that there's an invisible being that's responsible for life in the universe.
If I put my faith in a "God", then I'm taking my decision making abilities and putting them into the hands of something I can't even see. As an atheist, I get to decide what's right and wrong for me, and I get to deal with the consequences of my actions. As a Christian, I've got to take someone else's morals and values and make them my own. I give up responsibility for my own life and put it into someone else's hands, and that's something that I just can't do.
When it all comes down to it, you need to believe what you feel comfortable believing...you also need to learn to accept that others might not agree with you.
2007-06-10 18:12:04
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answered by rita_alabama 6
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You can't prove a negative. I don't have to prove god exists. You do and you can't. I believe scientists because they are smarter than you and there is much scientific evidence about the universe, evolution, geology, and anthropology. Evidence of dinosaurs, evidence of things developing over millions of years, like coal, diamonds, and oil that you try to explain away, but you can't because the scientific proof is there. You are the ones fooling yourself.
2007-06-10 18:32:18
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answered by AuroraDawn 7
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well most scientists tend to agree that there were multiple big bangs, and that the universe (all of the matter that exists) keeps retracting and expanding over trillions of years. nothing just poof and it exists, that defies Newton's laws. Matter has always existed, albeit in different forms.
2007-06-10 18:11:38
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answered by Chris R 2
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