Another one I’ve seen is that if an archeologist finds a piece of pottery in the ground and determines that it’s thousands of years old then this somehow proves that the universe has a creator and of course that creator is the Christian god because all other gods are just plain ridiculous. I just don’t get. All this proves to me is that a thousand years ago, some guy made a piece of pottery. End of story. Am I missing something?
2007-06-10 15:47:18 · 14 answers · asked by Desiree 4 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Argument from Ignorance, coupled with Non Sequitur.
1. X is complex.
2. X must have been created by a higher intelligence, since it is so complex. (non sequitur)
3. This higher intelligence is something that humans cannot comprehend. (argumentum ad ignorantium)
4. Therefore it is the Christian God. (non sequitur)
5. Therefore, God exists.
2007-06-10 16:02:29 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
The main problem (there are many) with the argument is that the analogy is not close. We have seen painters paint, but we've never seen a universe being made (we have, however, seen solar systems forming, and so a literal view of Genesis' order with the earth before the sun is decisively ruled out, but that is not news to most people, including most Christians). We stumble across a painting, or a watch (to use the more famous example) and know someone made it, but if we happen across a banana or a tomato, do we reach the same conclusion? The universe was here when we got here, and it is not at all inappropriate to argue that there is an ultimate meaning to existence, because nothing could very easily have existed rather than something, much less us. But that doesn't allow one to treat specific details as special creations. Affirming creation is a statement about the contingency of the universe, and it is only on that level that it makes sense, as theologians have long realized.
2007-06-10 23:02:00 · answer #2 · answered by jamesfrankmcgrath 4 · 1⤊ 1⤋
If you look around you at the universe(s) it had to start somewhere somehow. If it started with a big bang where did the big bang come from and what came before it. Eventually you discover that there had to be some beginning. Things don't start from nothing do they? So there has to be some intelligent creator out there somewhere. Christians call that creator God and a true Christian does not look down on someone Else's creator (God). If there is not an intelligent creator how did everything start?
2007-06-10 22:57:34 · answer #3 · answered by SgtMoto 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
How can a human know how to make
dirt from nothing anyways?
We are smart enough to mimic life, not
create it.
It takes a higher intelligence to know the origins of life through a recipe of created elements which evolve into thinking
organisms on a single planet in an endless
galaxy of who knows what else is out there.
I dont think anyone could accept credit of
something thats written of who created the universe, because it is written God created the heavens and the earth.
Our brains cant percieve that because our
capacity of learning every little aspect of a
simple flower or a human body or an animal,
is always in relation to something just like
the universe.
Everything we know that we think is our little secret that exist or is a recipe of life somehow came into existance somehow.
2007-06-11 02:32:15 · answer #4 · answered by PENMAN 5 · 1⤊ 1⤋
The problem arises when people try to explain spiritual things with material things. A piece of pottery 1000 years old or a million years can not bear witness to the spiritual creation. I don't think you are missing anything when it comes to issues like this.
2007-06-10 23:17:07 · answer #5 · answered by ? 6 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Yeah. We must assume that the pottery was created by someone a thousand years ago. Everything we know was created. Everything we understand was created somehow - except matter and energy. So where did they come from? Did they somehow pop into being spontaneously? Our scientific data contradicts that. So what happened?
Something or someone created matter and energy, and thus the universe was created.
2007-06-10 22:50:51 · answer #6 · answered by Sarah 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
YUP..................
What you are missing is the Creator part. Every intelligent design, pottery, plumbing, houses, watches, computers, space stations...They ALL had to have a thinking mind to create such ORDER .
SO does the Universe, and the planet we live on.
2007-06-10 22:57:01 · answer #7 · answered by bugsie 7 · 0⤊ 2⤋
Yeah, it doesn't make much sense. Does a beehive indicate the bees are intelligent? How about if a dog takes a crap on the ground - was that intelligently designed too?
2007-06-10 22:51:04 · answer #8 · answered by eri 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Yes, Christians really believe that. My answer is to pull a polished stone out of a stream bed and ask who polished it.
2007-06-10 22:53:38 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 1⤋
Perhaps you could get a bucket of dirt and put it in the dryer. Let it run for a few months. Maybe you could create something, too.
2007-06-10 22:52:07 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 2⤋