Is this the real issue with Christian creationism?

Question

When Jesus was crucified, it is said that he died for our sins. Christians believe him to be the redeemer of mankind. What is he redeeming us from? The fall in the garden, when sin first entered the world and the prospect of Hell was placed upon us as punishment.

In order for Christ’s death to have the meaning Christians believe it does, it is necessary that Adam and Eve’s story be historically factual.

Do you agree that this is the motivating factor behind the belief in Christian creationism?

Answer 1

It may be something along those lines, but I think it's deeper still. I think most hard-core Christians are a bit bothered by all the scientific discoveries which are eroding the "truths" they cling to. Rather than lose their comfort blanket of myths, they try to plaster over all that challenges Christianity and label folklore and fable as truth. I honestly think that they believe if their plaster of myth is thick enough, they'll smother further discovery which might threaten their faith.

Take the Creationalist Museum in Kentucky.

Museums are largely respected as places where one can see accurate history and discovery--and it's aimed at kids to some degree. So to erect a monument of myth and call it a "museum," they've done what I described above: They place a label of truth on folklore, and throw another layer of plaster over accurate discovery. Since kids haven't learned how to question the world around them, it sets the stage for yet another generation of blind followers, which allows religion to reside, once again, in comfort.

Answer 2

The start of mankind with the creation of Adam & Eve is the foundation of the plan God has laid out for mankind. That the whole of mankind is under the curse of sin including their own acts of sin requires a solution to be forgiven of those sins which are ultimately against God and therefore required God to be the only one who could bring about that solution since He is outside of sin being holy.

It is necessary to understand that the "Fall" took place because that is the true explanation of how sin spread to mankind. A "new" Adam so to speak came in Jesus Christ to lead a new people to have that unity that was once between God and mankind restored. The culmination of that salvation plan is that this world will one day be put aside and a "new heaven and Earth" will be brought about to come back full circle to the first sate of perfection which previously existed in the Garden of Eden where all the believers who choose to forsake their sinful lives and follow the new leader of mankind-Jesus, will be eternally.

Answer 3

Yes, that is the key.

Related is the fact that Genesis 1 talks of ordinary, 24-hour days. So if evolution is true, then Genesis 1 isn't, and if Genesis 1 isn't true, then how do we know the Gospels are?

Here's why we know Genesis 1 refers to ordinary days:
1. the reference to "evening" and "morning" indicate it's an ordinary day.
2. the ordinal numbers (first day, second day, etc.) so indicate.

Jesus accepted Genesis 1 as being true. If it isn't, then Jesus couldn't have been God.

However, if there were not genuine science backing up the Bible, Christianity would have passed away, or nearly so, by now.

To Jess: We Fundies do not believe in violence nor forcing our religion onto others. Your tossing us in with the terrorists (who are obeying their holy teachings; any violence from Christians [other than defence of self or others on a personal or national level] is a violation of our holy book. check it out) is inflammatory and inexcusable. Please do a little research before you paint such divergent groups with the same brush next time.

Answer 4

It might be part of it.

A great deal of it, though, seems to be ego and pride. The notion that humans developed from less sophisticated life forms somehow makes them feel...debased, I guess. They HAVE to see themselves as the "specially chosen" of their sky fairy. The implication being that God created the universe exclusively for humaity to exist in, even if we screwed it up. It's a very provincial and self-centered idea that strokes the ego.

That's another oddity. These folks have this strange idea that the actions of humanity rewrote the entire laws of reality for the entire world. If that isn't egotistical, I don't know what is.

Answer 5

something like that, and that if we evolved then we're not really accountable for our actions "monkeys rape other monkeys, we can from monkeys, therefore the instinct to rape is in us"

this was also the case with galileo, many feared if the heliocenter theory was true, then there would be more sun-worshippers

personally I believe the fall of man is that we're selfish and always put ourselves before God, and thus, will always suffer. Jesus comes and puts God first, He died because it was God's will, He didn't want to die, but he did.

Answer 6

Is there any reason to believe that the Creation story was fictional? Most Christians do believe in the creation story.

GOD bless

Answer 7

No .. ignorance, fundamentalism, and a literal, uneducated understand of Scripture are the motivating factor. Fundamentalists are NOT Christians IMO ... they are the rednecks of Christianity just like the Islamic terrorists are the rednecks of Islam.

Answer 8

Nothing we say will change your mind unless you open your heart first. Read Hebrews 9 and 10. God Bless

Answer 9

it has got to be the most ridiculous story i have ever heard, the "cleansing sin" idea by allowing himself to be killed by people. sounds more like martyrdom and suicide to me!

Answer 10

Absolutely. Not ashamed to say it!