Is the bible really not much better than a fairy tail and who really wrote it?

Question

If someone today claimed to be the son of God they would be labled with the looney brush. Nobody would ever take them seriously again. Even if 80% of what they said was very logical and well thought out. ( and yes I am talking about David Icke).

If I were for instance going to stand on top of a mountain Ben Nevis for example and report that God had just spoken to me and dictated another couple of hundred pages.
I would be called a nut, more than likley. however if I had been born two thousand years ago and said the same thing I may have been called phophet or a saint. So why is this so readily excepted that god used to communicate with us in this way and why dosn't he anymore or send e-mails like the rest of us. To add to this when princess Diana died some people for calling for her to be sainted. There was an argument put forward that diana was only human it was ridiculous to say she was a saint. But surely all the other people who have been sainted were also

just human are does the fact that they were born a 500 years ago plus mean that actually they were saints.

Bloody hell George bush hasn't got a belly button. That proves he's a shape shifting lizard. ............(Joking).

I can't be bothered to completely study the bible I have to admit I prefer to read a decent bit of fiction. It was foistered on me as a child.

Personaly I think David Icke is completely right about the bilderberg group there are certainly more fantastical thing's written in the bible. And if you think we are not being watched all the time in England the average person is caught on cctv 300 times a day I will do another post on this you can read if you wish. Joan of Arc was the last person to be sainted. She had visions of god and the virgin mary , she was lucky she was sainted if she had been the devil she probably would have been burned at the stake. Just because the bible says these people carried out all these miracels how do you know it's true. how do you know which bit to believe in the past somebody would have argued that jonah lived in a whale.

Oh, Alan you a such a bore. At least try to be original. You dont need to copy other peoples answers as somewhere in the deep recesses of your brain you might be able to come up with a original thought. How do you know Jesus rose up from the dead. No don't tell me you read it in the bible.
Even if this event is based on truth people get pronounced dead, when there not, even in this day and age, Someone in a local hospital to me got pronounced dead and sent to the morgue 5 times.

Also I would like to point out I do not base all of what I have said on anybody elses theory's I have not got into the veiws of Jesus and the bible by David Icke but personally I found them very interesting.

Baicaly I went to a C of E primary school and attended sunday school and quite frankly I feel like I have heard enough. It was and is a way to contol the masses. I believe that at Jesus lived and was a good man. I do not believe he was the son of God. His name has been Hijacked.

Oh, Alan you a such a bore. At least try to be original. You dont need to copy other peoples answers as somewhere in the deep recesses of your brain you might be able to come up with a original thought.

How do you know Jesus rose up from the dead. Were you there. No don't tell me you read it in the bible. Even if this event is based on truth people get pronounced dead when there not, even in this day and age.

Anyway you may as well believe in fairies and elfs with tails they can have 666 marked on them if it helps. the reallity is if the church and the bible told you they existed and you just had to have faith you probably would.

Also I would like to point out I do not base all of what I have said on anybody elses theory's I have not got into the veiws of Jesus and the bible by David Icke but personally I found them very interesting.

Organised religion is a way of controling the mases. It is doing a good job.

Anyway you may as well believe in fairies and elfs with tails they can have 666 marked on them if it helps. the reallity is if the church and the bible told you they existed and you just had to have faith you probably would.

Also I would like to point out I do not base all of what I have said on anybody elses theory's I have not got into the veiws of Jesus and the bible by David Icke but personally I found them very interesting.

Organised religion is a way of controling the mases. It is doing a good job.

Answer 1

I have read and watched some of David Icke's theories. Some are great some I feel are a little far fetched.

I have a theory of my own....think of it what you like. Imagine if we are not alone in our universe/galaxy and that worm holes lead us to different times in space or at least there is a civilisation with the technology to do this. Could it be possible that before Christ these (as we label them) aliens who had a greater knowledge than us became our prophets and gods?
They could look or even be 100% human just more advanced walking among us healing the sick teaching us and being caught up in our world and cultures. The socialisation and medicine they gave us somebody may have decided to abuse for power and so these secrets and technologies became a religion as we mustn't upset god...a way to control the thousands.... make them fear the very people who tried to help. Over time the stories of Jesus walking the earth healing people became far fetched as we didn't understand how he did it, so it was like magic, in time the story is that god gave Jesus the power to heal the sick. Mary was given Jesus without having sex, what if she didn't give birth to him either she was given a child one from a greater civilisation another world.

I know it sounds funny and very silly but I enjoy thinking out side the box I find it stimulates my mind. If you research the pyramids you will find historians still have no reason how the Egyptians got the top of the pyramid on the top...the triangular part...my theory a space ship hovered over the top and placed it there.

Reason they wont walk among us today government or whom ever does actually own the planet doesn't want them here....power is the best way to keep control that's why we have limited number of space explorations and why they hate the internet because people like you and me who are starting to think out side the box can discuss mad and out of bound ideas. We think they are silly because that's how we have been engineered to think through the media...the new religion of the 20th century.
you should look up the Baghdad battery and the star child skull.

Answer 2

In reality no one can be "sainted" apart from Gods ordained way. In other words, the bible says that all who have accepted Christ as Lord and Savior become sanctified through the Holy Spirit. Those whom the Catholic Church as deemed saints are not the only saints there are, were, or will ever be. As for the bible being a fairy tale, that isn't true at all. Many of the things written were proved through history and archaeological finds. As for the fantastic things such as the creation of the world, miracles, and Jesus Christ's death and Resurrection, it takes total faith in God to believe and accept those things. As long as a person doesn't believe or accept the existence of God, that person will not accept anything else that is discussed in the bible and will even reject the wisdom that comes from it.

Answer 3

The Israelites believed Moses because they had seen the miracles that God had done. The prophets were widely not believed, ridiculed, threatened and imprisoned until God did what he said he would, then the people repented.....God does still communicate with us, not just through the Bible, but we have prophets in the church. God does miracles too, I know because he used me twice to heal non-believers, and we have many healings in church. The catholics like to call certain people 'saints' after they have died and fulfilled certain criteria, but the Bible says anyone who has accepted Christ is now a saint. That's not a big-headed statement, most of us don't go around lording it over everyone else, but if the bible says so then who am I to argue!

Answer 4

The Bible is a combination of stories and facts. You simply cannot deny some of the stuff in the Bible, such as the existence of Jesus and the miracles hundreds of people all described the same exact way, and there is fish skeletons high up in mountains from the same time period the great flood was supposed to happen.

There are also stories about Moses going to the pharaoh, trying to convince him that God wants his people to be set free, and what does the pharaoh do? He gets his court magicians to do the exact same "miracles" that Moses did. Now, we all know magic is a bunch of BS, then why can the pharaoh's magicians do magic and nobody today can?

The Bible was written by over 30 different people over a period of 10000 years. There is simply no way everything in the Bible is true, but not everything is false either

Answer 5

I agree with you about people shouldn't be sainted, but the bible is true. What you're doing is judging God & the bible by looking at idiotic claims by David Icke & suchlike delusionists. Just because they are false doesn't mean the bible is though does it? I'm not being funny but to dismiss it as fairytale when (as you admitted) you haven't read it, is a bit narrow-minded really isn't it? Why don't you give it a go? Either that, or stop criticizing something that you haven't examined.

Answer 6

Sorry but totally disagree with your statement that 80% of what David Icke says is very logical and well-thought out.

(1) He believes we are being ruled over by shape-shifing lizards
(2) He believes in some kind of Committee of 300/Bilderberg group one world government that pervades all that we see or do.
(3) He made reference in one of his earlier books to Blair and Clinton (or was it Bush?) of being present at the rape of a woman in a helicopter, based upon this woman's testimony and apparently they thought it was amusing/acceptable
(4) His website several years' back provided "proof" that GWB was not human because he did not have a belly button
(5) He once spoke on a Nicky Campbell Radio 1 show in which he said he'd effectively travelled to the moon without moving

These are not rational and well-thought out views!

Answer 7

If you were to read the Bible, you'd discover that prophets actually did things or things happened that proved them to be what they said. They didn't just start spouting stuff because they wanted to.

As for saints - we're all "saints", the people in the past that have been sainted were no different than anyone else. We're all sinners. Saints are just one of the problems with Catholicism IMO. There's no scriptural basis for such a thing.

Answer 8

this has been a battle that has been going on for many centuries. we will only know the correct answer after we are dead. different religions believe differently. as for me i believe that bible is real. it was written by human beings a thousand years ago or so. but GOD wrote the bible through them. He is the actual author of the bible. who decided what books were going to be put in the bible.....man did. that's why there are so many different versions of othe bible. GOD used prophets to spread his word before jesus was born. once jesus was born there was no further use for prophets. jesus chose 12 desciples to spread his holy words .and to do the bidding of GOD. if you'll remember they were thought to be crazy too. many people thought that jesus was a prophet or a good teacher but many thought he was crazy and spat on him and insulted him. at first even his own desciples didn't truly believe him fully at first. even after he died on the cross and resurrested on easter sunday.

Answer 9

as a fairy tale it would not have lasted as the inspiration of many millions of people, as containing some words of God and Jesus, and his apostles, there are promises that do actually come true if applied to ones life. so it is far better than any fairy tale.

Answer 10

I will not attempt to respond to all your lengthy paragraphs but:-
1) I did not know either that there WERE fairies or that they had tails. (Maybe you know different)
2) Just claiming to be the Son of God (or even God) proves nothing, of course. BUT to claim to be the Son of God, bring the dead back to life, and then to louse up your own funeral by refusing to stay dead, that is something somewhat of a diffferent plain!!