Why do orthodox Jews reject the state of Israel?

Question

And are orthodox Jews the same as Hasidic Jews?. Serious answers - I'm only trying to understand another religion. I'm Catholic.

Answer 1

First of all, Orthodox Jews accept Israel. Many are Zionist. You are thinking of the ultra-Orthodox. Chassidic Jews are ultra-Orthodox, along with Charedis. The Neturei Karta (the website of which someone linked you to above) is an evil organization [the same one that hugged the Iranian president after he said that the Holocaust is a myth] and a very, very small one and should not be relied on for the opinion of all Jews.

The ultra-Orthodox believe only the Messiah can bring all Jews to Israel, which is true, all Jews believe this. But the ultra-Orthodox go further to say that no Jews should be in Israel until messiah puts them there. Other Orthodox (like Modern) believe that Jews can be in Israel. Obviously there is still much work for the messiah to do since there is still a Diaspora, so we support Israel.

[please note that in America, there is Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox. In Israel, there is only Orthodox, and American Modern Orthodox is more Conservative than Orthodox]

Answer 2

It's not all Orthodox Jews and Hassidim.
Within orthodoxy, there are more traditional Jews and less traditional Jews. The Modern Orthodox pretty much uniformly support Israel. Within the more tradition sects (yes, including Chassidim), some do and some don't.
The reason these groups don't support Israel is because they believe that Jews should not establish a Jewish state until the Messiah comes. There is a source in the Talmud that indicates the same.
Now, there is anti-Zionism, and there is anti-Zionism. The Satmar Chassidim, for instance, are anti-Zionists. But they are mature about it. They understand that a large part of the Jewish world is very Zionist, and they respectfully agree to disagree.
On the other hand, there are fringe groups like the Naturei Karta. The N.K. has the habit of becoming bosom buddies with notorious terrorists. These people clearly need help.

Answer 3

There are some besides the Neturi Karta. The Satmars and a pair different extremely Orthodox sects have self belief that obtaining into Israel earlier the Messiah comes, is misguided. AFTER Messiah comes is the excellent time. So it is not anti- "Israel belonging to the Jews" in any respect, that is purely a count of earlier Messiah comes or after. maximum folk of Orthodox Jews have self belief that Jews are to be reclaiming their land ever because of the fact the UN created the State of Israel in 1948. that's the Jews who have been invaded with the aid of the two the Christians and the Muslims, bear in mind, the Jews are indigenous (close by Tribal) to the area, and the land were Israel for 1000 years even earlier those invasions. The Arabs are actually not from there, they are from the Arabian Peninsula. Even after the invasions many Jews nonetheless lived there and function executed so for 3000 years. it incredibly is 3 THOUSAND years. it incredibly is an incredibly small form of Orthodox Jews, altogether, who don't sense that Jews could pass lower back to their land till after the Messiah comes. maximum sense that the ingathering lower back to their place of start is each Jew's marvelous.

Answer 4

Hasidic and Orthodox are not the same, but can be confusing to a non-Jew. Orthodox Jews belive that Israel can only be had when it is the messiah.

Answer 5

Hassidism is a subset of Orthodox Judaism.

An infinitesimally small group within the Jewish community rejects Zionism and thus are opposed to the Israel.because it is a secular state. Some of them live in Israel.

The Neturei Qarta group, which numbers under 20 Orthodox Jews, does indeed object to the State of Israel. The other 99.999999999 percent of Jews throughout the world support Israel as the Jewish homeland--the only Jewish state in the whole wide world.

The Jewish community considers these supporters of Islamic terror as the lunatic fringe.


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Answer 6

The Orthodox Jews believe that only the Messiah can establish the State of Israel, therefore they believe that the present secular State of Israel is illegitimate.

The Orthodox are still waiting for a Messiah who they believe will be a military leader, one who will crush the Arabs and who will enforce adherence to the Law of Moses.

Hasidic Jews are a strict sect within the Orthodox religion, who interpret the Law of Moses almost literally.

Answer 7

The majority of Orthodox Jews are either Zionist or non Zionist with a minority being anti Zionist.

Chasidic Jews are a subset of Orthodox Jews. They have a tendancy to be less Zionist than non Chasidic Jews. Satmar, the world's largest Chasidic group is known to be anti Zionist.

Answer 8

The reason why is that the orthodox Jews interpret their scriptures to say that Zion is not to be taken by force. Jews did not keep their commandments, therefore they were scattered across the globe and are no longer entitled to a state of Zion. For jews to create Zion themselves is an affront to God.
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Answer 9

I guess anyone can do whatever they wanna do!