Great, now we got people trying to convert us to Deism?
If that were the case, and God just set things in motion and then sat back with a couple a six packs and left us alone, why would we care?
2007-06-09 16:59:37
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Hey, anything's possible. Although as others have pointed out, your logic is a little suspect in places. Not too many Atheists say God must not exist cuz he's evil. Being evil doesn't preclude existence. Just ask Hitler.
Sounds like you might enjoy reading what Nietzsche has to say on the topic - although he was speaking more figuratively than literally - of God being dead, and this abandonment leading to nihilism.
Have you also considered the possibility that it wasn't God that abandoned us, but rather man abandoning his fellow man - by bestowing his love upwards instead of towards each other and creating divisive religions/gods?
Lastly, what's the point of worshiping an absentee landlord like you describe? A God who's on lunch break for eternity and who doesn't interact with his creators (uhm I mean children) rather argues the opposite of your point, namely why we should be embracing atheism. Just remember...
The invisible and nonexistent look much alike.
— Delos B. McKown
2007-06-09 17:29:52
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answered by HawaiianBrian 5
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Ever hear of Occam's razor? Occam's razor was formulated by William of Occam (1285-1349) and says: "Non est ponenda pluralites sive necessitate" or in English: "Do not multiply entities unless necessarily". It is a principle for scientific labor which means that one should use a simple explanation with a few explanatory premises before a more complex one.
Let's say that everything must be created, and that was done by an omnipotent god. A god which stands above time, space, moral and existence, which is self containing and in it self has it's own cause. This entity can surely be replaced by the known world. The world stands above time, space, moral, existence, is self containing and in it has it's own meaning. Most theists agree that god has a nature. Then we must raise the question, who created god's nature? If we just accept that god has a nature and exists without a cause, why not say that the known world just is and that the laws of physics are what they are, without a cause?
God is not really an explanation, only a non-explanation. It is impossible to gain information from non-information so God as an explanation is a dead end. When we have said that the reason for something is that 'god did it that way' there is no way to understand it any further. We just shrug our shoulders and accept things as they are. To explain the unknown by god is only to explain how it happened, not why. If we are to investigate the world and build our views of life from the world, we cannot assume a god. Because adding god as an explanation leaves as many, if not more questions than it explains, god has to be removed with Occam's razor if we are serious in investigating the world.
2007-06-09 16:58:23
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answered by Anonymous
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Suppose you're right--what, then, would be the point of worshipping such an absentee God?
Since the net change from "not worshipping a God because it doesn't exist" to "not worshipping a God because it's no longer here" is zero. It doesn't change anything about the Bible, or religions in general.
Another major flaw is that most people do not believe in God because there's absolutely no evidence He exists, not because are avoiding the conclusion that "God is Evil" .
2007-06-10 00:22:03
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answered by Anonymous
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I've never known an atheist to 'look at the bible and say God is evil, so God must not exist'.
Personally, I have studied many faiths and philosophies. I've also studied science. When I've tried to reconcile scientific findings (facts that can be tested multiple times, for verification) with faith (which can't be verified outside of itself), faith falls short every time.
I spent well over 15 years on a spiritual quest. During this time, I was very open to each faith's teachings. I will readily admit that I did take something away from each of them (Do unto others...from christianity, the quest for truth from Buddhism, a greater respect for nature from the Medicine Wheel), they are only things that apply to the physical world.
The feelings of connection to something greater never occurred (every faith promises this). I have both experienced and witnessed numerous times when faith, which is supposed to be uplifting, drag people under (I personally know a woman who attempted suicide because her faith frowns on abortion).
I took my confusion (and the lessons of Buddhism) and sought the truth. Ultimately, without evidence to support the claims put forth by religions, they are just tales filled with false hope. The only truths to be found are, in fact, a part of the natural world.
2007-06-09 17:12:27
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answered by Bill K Atheist Goodfella 6
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I did not come to believe there are no gods without giving it lots of thought. After all, I was brought up to believe in a god. I examined theistic beliefs, read the christian bible and several other religion's texts, had discussions with people with different beliefs, and came to the conclusion that no gods exist because there is absolutely no proof, or even evidence, that a god or gods exist.
It has nothing to do with "evil," or suffering, although no one has explained that to my satisfaction. For me it's about not believing anything unless there's a good reason to. Wishful thinking, fear of death, wanting to see dead loved ones, etc. is not a good reason.
2007-06-09 17:11:21
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answered by YY4Me 7
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I agree. There is a tiny chance that there is a supernatural creator that created the universe and doesn't interact with us. But I am an atheist because theism generally implies religion, and worship of a god. I believe that anyone who thinks they are worshiping a god is really worshiping some fantasy that has nothing to do with reality. I believe all gods identified by people are myths.
If you want to call me agnostic because of this, I won't quibble semantics with you. But be aware that my belief is enough to make nearly all religious people consider me to be atheist.
2007-06-09 17:05:53
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answered by Jim L 5
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as an atheist i have to say this:
if youre religious, how can you automatically assume thats what atheists are thinking?
i know thats not what i think.
i dont believe in god because i just find the whole possibility of a "god" to be rediculus. i used to be jewish, ive read the old testament many times, and thought the stories tought good moral tales, but didnt convince me that a god could exist. science answers questions with logical reasoning, religion is based on faith. you may trust faith, but i trust reasoning. dont tell me to prove that god doesnt exist, because i cant, just like i wont tell you to prove that god exists because i know you cant.
to each his own opinion. i believe there is no god, ypu believe there is. it is as simple as that. i dont think god sounds evil, and i dont think all religions have faults, i just dont believe, so please dont assume things.
and yes, i have thought that maybe a god created and abandoned us, i just simply dont believe it.
2007-06-09 17:03:42
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answered by Rain 5
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I am atheist since there are no solid proofs that a God exists. It might be we were created by a God tha abandoned us, but still we don't proof that's the truth.
2007-06-12 09:53:18
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answered by El Papi 1
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I'm open to the possibility of anything...
but this is no reason to become religious.
If that god did exist, all the human religions would be wrong, so there's still reason to believe in any gods.
2007-06-09 16:57:09
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answered by funaholic 5
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No actually I say no gods exist. It's up to the believer to prove that their gods do exist.
Pointing out flaws in your religion is just proving that the god of that religion can't exist.
There's no reason to believe any god created us though - abandoned us or not.
2007-06-09 23:38:50
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answered by Anonymous
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