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in my dogs akc papers there is some white shepherd in his bloodlines on his mothers side. and now white shepherds are a sepperate breed. it doesn't make sense to me if that is true then how can he be a pure bred dog? how ever on his fathers side the bloodlines are awsome there are some national champions.

2007-06-09 12:17:28 · 15 answers · asked by brightarrow 2 in Pets Dogs

15 answers

Well, to be honest with you, you are lucky to have the dog. In Germany White German Shepherds are put down at birth. After that the Dame and Sire are never allowed to breed again, if they are bred, then the entire litter will be put down. Germany has a lot of guide lines to breeding that we here in the United States don't even think about. For example, dames and sires are only allowed to be bred once every other year in Germany, where as here in the states, most breeders will breed them as often as they can. Also, dames and sires can only be bred so many times in a life time. You said your dog's father has some national championships in his bloodline, for what confirmation. One reason that Germany is so stricked is because they are trying to keep any medical problems from spreading. Dogs are not allowed to be bred till they are 2 yrs old. This is also the age at which they can be checked and certified for heart, elbows and hips. German dogs must also have titles. In order for a male to be bred he must compete in a sport called Schutzhund which was developed in Germany for German Shepherds in 1900 that test the dogs in obedience, tracking, and protection. Males must be a Sch level 3 and dames have to be a Sch level 1. Your dogs parents, were their elbows, hips and heart certified? Most American line German Shepherds aren't, so I would beg you, even if you got the certifications for your dogs elbows hips and heart, don't breed your dog. Your not going to make any money for it. All you are going to do is add more puppies that are unwanted. I worked rescue for German Shepherds for 4 years, and over the past 2 years, I have rescued over 200 German Shepherds alone. And that is in just one city in the United States. If you were to do that many in the fifty larges cities in the US, that is over 10,000 dogs over a 2 year period. Think about it, and get your dog fixed.

2007-06-09 12:38:30 · answer #1 · answered by boleen03 3 · 2 0

Howdy,
First of all, White is an acceptable color and can be a full registration in AKC and are not a seperate breed in AKC. They are still a German Shepherd Dog. The only avenue that whites cannot participate in is in conformation. They are allowed in obedience, agility, or any competition that AKC offers except for conformation showing.

UKC and EUROPE recognizes the White Shepherd and I have seen some stunning imports from Germany, yes, GERMANY!

In UKC, the White Shepherd was recognized as a seperate breed approximately 9 years ago, however, the breeders had the option of either seperating their whites out as the White Shepherd OR they could maintain the German Shepherd Dogs status.
In UKC, the whites that are registered as GSDs compete with the "colored" dogs if they have a black nose.
In Europe, whites are put in the pastural group and must have some type of working title to achieve their conformation title. Blues and Livers can also compete in this group in Europe, but is a disqualifying fault here in the U.S. because of their nose color which cannot by genetics, be black, thus disqualified in conformation, but again, may compete in any aspect of competition such as obedience, agility, herding, etc..
There are many quality White German Shepherd breeders as white colored GSDs that are very dedicated to their breeding program and much progress has been made in educating the general public.
Most belong to the White Shepherd Genetics list or the GSD genetics list, which in my opinion should be combined as these dogs are still a GSD, genetically and all colors are subject to the same genetic faults and ALL must be tested before engaging in any breeding program.

2007-06-09 19:27:55 · answer #2 · answered by debbieh3031 2 · 2 0

While your dog is a purebred and has AKC papers it does not mean he is good enough to be bred. There are hundreds of German Shepherds literally dying for lack of good homes so why would you want to add to the dog population and have his pups put to death because they are unwanted. Having white dogs in his pedigree shows his breeding was done by people who wanted to make a buck as white Shepherds are not what the breed asks for. White dogs are lousy police dogs and almost every dog bred to herd sheep is a color other than white so the sheep know the difference. It cost several hundred dollars to get the required health tests done before he can safely be bred and no one with a good quality female would breed to him anyway. AKC is strictly a registering organization, just as your car is "registered" whether it is a 2008 Hummer or 1979 Caravan full of rust. AKC does not mean quality and in lots of cases the papers are forged.

2007-06-09 12:54:16 · answer #3 · answered by ginbark 6 · 2 1

White is not a seperate breed. It's a different color variety.
I don't think the AKC allows it.
I'll look it up for you in a second.

I went to the AKC website, looked under breed standard for German Shepard Dogs and this is what I found:

Color
The German Shepherd Dog varies in color, and most colors are permissible. Strong rich colors are preferred. Pale, washed-out colors and blues or livers are serious faults. A white dog must be disqualified.

That's copied directly from:
http://www.akc.org/breeds/german_shepherd_dog/

That's why he can't be bred. If the mom has white, she, and all of her pups are disqualified from shows.
She is purebreed because all of her ansestors are German Shepards. The white in her bloodlines is a fault that disqualifies her from AKC championship.

I hope this answers your questions.

2007-06-09 12:22:42 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

Yes, the German Shepherd Dog was originally developed in Germany by Capt. Max von Stephanitz in the late 1890's. I love my GSD, but also realize they are not the perfect dog for everyone. Attached are links of the breed's history and desirable GSD characteristics.

2016-05-21 01:31:03 · answer #5 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

You cannot use him as stud because he may produce white puppies, which are disallowed. White is considered a defect in german shepherds and no responsible breeder will want to risk breeding it. Please have your dog neutered.
From the AKC Standard:
"Color
The German Shepherd Dog varies in color, and most colors are permissible. Strong rich colors are preferred. Pale, washed-out colors and blues or livers are serious faults. A white dog must be disqualified. "

2007-06-09 12:37:45 · answer #6 · answered by K 5 · 1 1

he can still be purebred, but his lines are no longer acceptable for breeding. it doesnt lessen his purebred-ness. white shepherds arent even an akc breed, the coloring is unacceptable. many dogs can be purebred, and not have acceptable show qualities. thus, why every purebred dog born isnt capable of showing

2007-06-09 13:03:45 · answer #7 · answered by Mike 1 · 1 1

Any dog can be used as a stud. But some only want a certain type or certain pedigree. If you are unable to use him for AKC, there are other clubs that will still accept his papers. AKC is not God almighty, although some people mistake the club for Him.

This whole thing sounds like the old laws that said one drop of "color" in a man made him colored and unable to use a "white" fountain. Seems really arrogant to me.

2007-06-09 12:28:43 · answer #8 · answered by mama woof 7 · 2 5

White G. S are the same breed. Someone decided to do that because the white is so popular now.

Yes you can breed him. Whoever told you that is wrong

2007-06-09 12:23:09 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 2 5

Maybe you should give AKC a call and ask them if you can or not, that is my best bet, or call the breeder!

2007-06-09 12:21:59 · answer #10 · answered by Kelly H 1 · 1 5

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