Mormons why does the church excommunicate those who present evidence against them?

Question

Grant Palmer was disfellowshiped for saying Mormons don’t know there own history

Thomas W. Murphy was almost excommunicated for presenting DNA evidence against the church

D. Michael Quinn was excommunicated for his ideas about Mormon origins.

Is there anymore I missed?

Biased? Sometimes it’s down right obvious

Answer 1

Simon Southerton, DNA Scientist and former bishop.
Ken Clark, former CES instructor
Paul Toscano - Salt Lake Attorney
Lavina Fielding Anderson - Editor and writer of the Church published "Ensign"
Maxine Hanks - Ardent feminist and editor of a book called "Women and Authority: Re-emerging Mormon Feminism". She has written and spoken extensively on the subject of Heavenly Mother (asked elsewhere on YA).
Lynne Kanavel Whitesides - President of the Mormon Women's Forum. - Actually disfellowshipped.
And hundreds of other less famous on http://www.exmormon.org/boards/

Welcome to the Sons of Perdition Club

Addenda - Or you can be blocked as a 'troll'. Apparently I've scared the bejesus out of 'free2bfrearless'...

Answer 2

I haven't seen what Murphy and Palmer wrote or said but Quinn has been against the Current Mormon heirarchy for years.
If any Protestant leader said Jesus didn't rise from the dead...
hmm ie. The Jesus Group...
Wouldn't you say that they should be called non christians.
Hebrews 6 4-6 Tells you about personal apostacy.

I read some good materials on DNA evidence and The book of Mormon at fairmormon.org Personally I have to read about Murphy and Palmer but if they apostasized from the church then they should be excommunicated.

Answer 3

it's not excommunication because they brought "evidence" against the church. In all the examples that you have given, they were activley underminding church doctrine and trying to either have things changed or one that you speak of wanted to publish a book, with the title of being an active member of the church. He obviously didn't believe in the doctrine of the church and only wanted to keep his membership so that his book was more "creditble" members that activley participate in apostasy, after all the facts being reviewed if they indeed are commiting apostasy, then they are excommunicated. apostasy as in the dictionary is
noun
1. the state of having rejected your religious beliefs or your political party or a cause (often in favor of opposing beliefs or causes)

those that commit apostasy in any religous sect are excommunicated. And it's not like their the only ones, on a case by case basis, murderes, adultures and many others are also grounds for excommunication. And those that are excommunicated are always welcome to come back, but they must go through the repentance process.

Answer 4

The should be why would those that present evidence against the Mormon Church still want to be in the Mormon Church.
This question is so obvious. Why would any group, club, or organization want members in it that do not believe what the organization believes?

Answer 5

The reason they ex-communicate is because Blood-Atonement is now illegal. They have ex-communicated thousands of people who were able to do a little homework and realize the church was full of crap. Usually they make up a lie that the person was committing Adultury or some other sin besides realizing the truth that Mormonism is a lie. That way the faithful will know that the excommunication was justified.

Answer 6

Palmer wsa disfellowshipped because he didnt' believe Joseph Smith didn't translate the book of Mormon.


His book suggested that Smith didn't actually translate the Book of Mormon. Instead, it suggests Smith penned it himself, leaning heavily on the King James Bible, emotional Methodist tent revivals, Masonry and other personal experiences in a highly superstitious era of American history.

Answer 7

Why would ANY church want to keep as a member, anyone who doesn't believe?????

"Oh, he doesn't believe anything that we methodists do, but we sure don't want to kick him out!! He bad mouths us at every turn, but we can't kick him out. He makes us look like total idiots, but we value his membership too much!"

Murphy didn't present ANY evidence against anything. All he had was TODAY'S DNA results that seem to say that native American Indians have no sort of Jewish DNA. But, did he actually compare the DNA of today's native Americans with the ACTUAL DNA OF LEHI, NEPHI, AND MORONI? Cause in order to even BEGIN to PROVE anyting, he would need the prophet samples for testing.

he other two just spoke their minds, and showed how they didn't like the church, how tey don't believe the prophet, etc. So, why are they cying "poor poor piiful me" if they don' like the church in teh first place?

Answer 8

The answer to the first question is that the church doesn't want to hear what these people say.

There is a whole list of others who met the same fate.
There are people who wrote to the church about history and so forth that met the similar fate. One is a professor in Australia talking about DNA research.

Answer 9

The LDS Church does not publish why anyone is excommunicated. Any account you have of `why' the person was excommunicated is therefore biased.

Answer 10

I am a Mormon. Most of the people who have posted don't know anything about our church.

I don't understand why anyone would want to be a member of a church if they don't believe the doctrine that is taught. That is what it comes down to. You either believe or you don't. If you don't, then you can't call yourself a member of the church. The church isn't going to change it's doctrines just because people disagree with them.