14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church
How are their ANY women christians left?
2007-06-08
08:50:10
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Don't give me some "out of context" BS. Thats how its written. Pretty hard to take that out of context.
2007-06-08
08:50:48 ·
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OK so the general consensus i'm getting is that the bible is sexist but Jesus was't. Why do we still use the bible then?
2007-06-08
09:08:52 ·
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Well this woman is not down with that second class citizen BS.
But as a non-practicing Christian, I will tell you that woman is thought of as lesser than man because of her role in his/their expulsion from paradise.
16 To the woman he [God] said, "I will greatly increase your pregnancy pain: in pain you will bear children. Yet you will long for your husband and he will dominate you." 17 And to the man he said, "Because you heeded your wife and ate from the tree I commanded you not to, cursed is the ground on account of you: you will eat with pain all the days of your life. 18 Thorn and thistle will sprout for you when you want to eat the plants of the field: 19 by the sweat of your forehead you will eat bread until you return to the ground (for from it you were taken)--dust you are and to dust you will return."
(3:16-19)
The curses were targeted to the created role of the man and woman. The woman was cursed in her relationship to her husband and in her essential role of continuing the race. They had been created for a relationship of mutuality, but now the husband would dominate. The text states unambiguously that woman's subordination to man follows the break with God, and is a result of the curse; it was not part of the created order. In addition to interpersonal dysfunction, the woman would have great pain in the course of child birthing and child rearing.
2007-06-08 08:59:56
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answered by Inquiringmind 3
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Do you know when that was written? Do you know WHY that was written? Did you find that scripture yourself or did an atheist read it to you? Yes it is out of context. What do the scriptures BEFORE and AFTER say? Do some research.
To not appear too "radical" a lot of the Jewish customs were held over into the New Testament times, to attract more people. If you think this is a slam against women, who were the first ones at the tomb? Jesus treated women with as much respect as men. It was common for the times to keep women quiet, and in the home (cultural customs, not Jesus' or Paul's teachings).
2007-06-08 09:02:32
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answered by Anonymous
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"As in all the churches of the saints, the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak. Rather, let them be in submission, as in fact the law says. If they want to find out about something, they should ask their husbands at home, because it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in church. "
If you read the rest of the chapter, you will notice that Paul is writing a letter to the Corinthian church. They are a new church and trying to assemble some sort of order. They are speaking about a church meeting. Also, 14:35 simply states that if you have a question, wait and ask your husband later as not to disturb the meeting.
2007-06-08 09:12:28
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answered by Anonymous
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Here's your context: Paul wrote that as a specific letter to the church in Corinth which was known as a popular coastal town rife with prostitution. Women would attempt to collect "cllients" from everywhere including the church, where they would "assert" their postion. This is not an admonition of all women and Paul himself was responsible (in the Bible) for the ministry of at least 4 women we know of including Phoebe whose title was translated as "deaconess". It's the difference in picking a couple of sentences out of the passage, and knowing the passage. You can't learn about history by reading a history book alone, you have to understand the times. Why is this so difficult to understand? Enough facts for you?
2007-06-08 09:06:30
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answered by Scott B 7
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If the Christian woman respects this commandment, they also understand that there are responsibilities for women in church as long as they do not usurp (override) the authority of the man.
This does NOT degrade the women of the church nor does it make them any less of a woman or any less of a Christian. Men and women are still equal, we just have different roles in the church.
There are millions of women in the churches of Christ around the world that do not have a problem with this.
2007-06-08 09:12:31
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answered by TG 4
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Things were different back then. The women sat on one side of the Church while the men sat on the other side. You can see how asking a question from one side of the room during a service could be very disruptive.
2007-06-08 09:01:21
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answered by Apostle Jeff 6
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Actually, it's not hard to take it out of context as proven by your writing. You see, context comes from what is before and after.
Admittedly, when I first read these I was P'Oed. But contextually they are talking at a time when the women were getting up and yelling inappropriately during services and chatting.
2007-06-08 09:00:59
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answered by Me 4
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I think that the creator of the all who spins the universe in orbit has a little bit more knowledge that we as humans have. Sometimes his commands may seem a little confusing based on our beliefs we gain from our society. But. . to question what he says is scary to me. Maybe we should put our pride in our pockets, show a little humility and take a little guidance from our creator. I don't think that there is anyone alive who can say that they have had a bad experience from following God's teachings. God's love is all sufficient, and personally, there is nothing else in this world that makes me more happy than following him. Hope this helps! God Bless!
2007-06-08 09:02:12
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answered by derric i 2
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Yes, I agree. I've heard people say that women were uneducated and yelled questions during services, but this is an excuse and it's not supported in the Bible. The verses specifically point out women and no excuses hide the sexism.
2007-06-08 08:56:55
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answered by Graciela, RIRS 6
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Some women don't mind being second class citizens
Then someone writes this
"It was common for the times to keep women quiet, and in the home (cultural customs, not Jesus' or Paul's teachings)."
Wow, that's the same excuse they use for slavery
2007-06-08 09:03:18
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answered by Anonymous
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Did you just sit there for hours looking for something in the Bible to complain about? Even though I'm a woman I agree with Maurice. He makes a good point!
2007-06-08 09:03:14
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answered by Allee_Rose17 3
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