This debate was going on in another forum. I'd like to see how you trolls at Y!A R&S feel about this one.
2007-06-08 05:55:21 · 18 answers · asked by Deutscher Eishockey Bund 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Funny, you say they can't because they sin and are against God.
That means that you can't be Christian since you have lied before (sin) and lying is against God.
MAN!
2007-06-08 06:00:57 · update #1
I don't presume to be able to speak for God. There are gay people who live together as "partners" and who go to a church and consider themselves to be Christian, but I don't know how God will deal with them, as forgiving as He is, and all. Good luck.
2007-06-08 06:02:31 · answer #1 · answered by hillbilly 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Can practicing homosexuals be saved?
If a by "practicing homosexual" is meant a person who is openly approving of homosexuality and is engaged in it, can this person be saved? Yes and no. Yes because any sinner has the potential of becoming saved. On the other hand, if the person is professing to be a Christian yet is unrepentantly practicing homosexuality, then it would appear that he would not be saved. 1 John 2:4 says, "The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him." So, a homosexual can be saved, but once saved, the Spirit of God will move that person to repent of the sin of homosexuality. If a person continues to unrepentantly practice homosexuality, promoting it, etc., then that person would not be demonstrating evidence of regeneration.
But then again, a person could become saved, still fall into homosexuality, be convicted by the Spirit of the sin, all the while be seeking to break free from it. So technically, in this last sense, he could be saved and be a homosexual -- not as a life style, but as in struggling against his sin which sometimes can get the best of him. It would be like a drug addict becoming a Christian and still being hooked on drugs. He would struggle against and still have the desire to participate in it.
I would say that a person who has professed Christ and is struggling against sin is demonstrating evidence of regeneration. Remember, many people who become Christians still struggle with many of their old sins. Even Paul struggled, "For the good that I wish, I do not do; but I practice the very evil that I do not wish," (Rom. 7:19). We are not perfect and we must remember to be gracious to others, especially when they are stuck in an old sin, want to repent of it, and are trying to have victory over it. This is when grace is need, not law. But, of course, we are never to encourage or excuse a person's sin. We must pray for them to attain full victory.
Now, some Christians will state that once you become saved, you should automatically have victory over all your sins. This is an unfortunate burden they place on many Christians because "perfection" becomes the standard for measuring whether or not they are Christians. This can cause people to doubt their salvation. While it is true that we have victory in many areas when we become saved, it is also true that we still struggle with many of our old sins. Of course, it is never okay for us to go ahead and sin (Rom. 6:1-2). We must always struggle for holiness. But the fact is, like Paul, we sometimes do the things we don't want to do and don't do what we should. It is our struggle against sin that demonstrates that we are regenerate since we are seeking to be holy as God is holy (1 Pet. 1:16).
Finally, it is no dead people who struggle for life. Only those who are alive struggle. Likewise, the dead in sin, the unregenerate do not struggle against their sins. Christians do.
2007-06-08 12:59:35 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
I'm sure there are many Christian gay couples. Jesus said "not everyone that says Lord, Lord will enter into the kingdom of heaven but he that does the will of the Father".
2007-06-08 13:00:03 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
If they are Catholic, they are going against the teachings of the church.I think that there are many of these couples. They pick and choose what they want to believe and following and ignore the rest. A-la-catre Catholics.
2007-06-08 13:00:11 · answer #4 · answered by WC 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Who cares what anybody thinks. What we do know is that within the Bible is contained the mind of God, the will of God. Read it and find out for yourself. This really isn't debatable.
2007-06-08 13:01:02 · answer #5 · answered by Jimbo 2 · 0⤊ 0⤋
of course there is...I grew up in a liberal faction of the Society of Friends, and they accpet all people in the name of the Lord. They believe that all of us have the light of the spirit in us, and that people should be free to live as they will as long as they hurt no one else.
2007-06-08 13:01:23 · answer #6 · answered by country_girl 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
No ! You can't LIVE in sin and be Christians. Jesus died on the cross for all of our sins and He gives us the strength to change. When you come to Him , there MUST be a change, if there isn't , your salvation is a lie.
2007-06-08 13:00:30 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Yes, there is. I see them every Sunday at my church ... and I go to a CATHOLIC CATHEDRAL and they 'take communion' so I know that they are 'Christian' and I know that they are a 'gay couple' ... but you CAN NOT TAKE COMMUNION in a Catholic church without being 'Catholic' ... and Catholics are Christians ... we were 'the first' Christians, after all!
2007-06-08 12:59:44 · answer #8 · answered by Kris L 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
My wife and I are friends with a married lesbian couple who are both Seventh Day Adventists -- but don't ask ME how they reconcile it all....
2007-06-08 12:58:25 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I see a lot of them in my parish. Two of them are even my aunties actively involved in the church.
2007-06-08 13:02:23 · answer #10 · answered by Rallie Florencio C 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋