In Job....?

Question

So in Job Satan and God basically have a little wager where Satan thins that Job wouldn't be all "I love God" if Satan got to rough him up a little.

Here's my problem, Satan knew God wouldn't take a challenge He didn't intend to win as God can see all. Now with Satan knowing this, he knew Job wouldn't lose faith in God. Now God being all knowing, would know that Satan knew that God knew that Satan knew.

So basically they just tortured Job for fun since both knew the end result.

And for you "Job got everything back in the end two fold" folks. What about the families of his staff? Did they get their sons and daughters back too? And even though I don't have lots on this Earth, I wouldn't take 10x what I have now to be put through what Job had to go through.

thin = think obviously

Answer 1

Job was not tortured "just for fun." And, no, Satan did not know he would be proven wrong. He was cocky and self-assured when he challenged God by claiming that Job only loved God because of the many blessings bestowed upon him and that his love for God would not endure through trials and suffering. I would presume Satan fully expected Job to fail.

I've often wondered if this was not only a testing of Job's faith but a lesson God was teaching to Satan as well. It certainly proved that Job (and us) are capable of truly loving God (and not just for the blessings). That love is proven true in bad times. Anyone can claim they love you in good times, but love is proven true or false during the difficult times, wouldn't you agree?

Yes, losing your loved ones would be extremely painful, and I would not want to be in Job's position. I'm not certain I would handle it as well as He did. But, you're looking at this through a temporal perspective, not an eternal one. When you're talking about God, you have to think of the eternal. In the grand scheme of things, through an eternal perspective, Job only experienced a temporary separation from his loved ones, not a permanent one.

Not only would he be reunited with them someday, but look at all the good that came out of his testing. His faith was strengthened, the second half of his life was blessed more abundantly than the first, his friends were taught a lesson, and the faith of all those in his household had to have been strengthened as well. Not to mention his neighbors and others who would have heard and may have decided to put their trust in God as a result of Job's trials.

If you'll read the end, Job was given a new understanding of God. Job is the one who endured the suffering, remained faithful, and was not bitter or angry at God in the end. So why should you be?

Answer 2

Actually, Satan is not all knowing. He just thinks he is. God knew the outcome but there were a few things He also knew Job needed to deal with. Also, it's a very good lesson to us on how to deal with someone who is going through hard times. Most people, like Job's friends, don't have a clue about what's going on and their "help" is often more harmful than good.

I suspect that since Job was given back what he lost that would include the staff's families as well. When the leader is following God and being blessed the followers are also blessed.

Answer 3

Satan has a problem with his ego . he is not all seeing like God and he will never give up the idea that he can win . he has loads of all those qualities that are detested in men . Egotistical , thinks he's always right , thinks he can always out smart , thinks no one is as good as he is , greed to have it all at any cost . he is blinded by too much looking in the mirror . he was the most beautiful of angels and that warped him .
I understand what you are saying about the loss of your family . But what you don't understand , is that you have nothing . All things belong to God , everything you have including the ability to work , you have by the grace of God . This property belongs to Him and all the fruits that are produced also belong to him . Every drop of food and water you put in your mouth are His . He has allowed you to experience the love of family , to show you a glimpse of the love He has for you . Job understood these things . satan is fighting God right now for possession of the Earth , the battle is reflected on Earth . But satan will loose .

Answer 4

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I think this is what makes humans unique in that as a studied subject, they have a general pattern and practics but, you do not know what they will do unless, you know them. Satan choose a hard target. At Job 1:8, God stated the kind’a servant Job was up until that time, not the outcome. Even, Satan was unsure of the outcome when he said, ‘…touch everything he has [and see] whether he will not curse you to your very face…”

In short, God knew Job as a person not as a studied subject.
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Answer 5

God did know jobs heart and that he would stand true. Satan did not. Satan is not the giver or taker of life, neither does he have the knowledge or power of God. only God the father knows the end results and who will stand and who will fall. God allowed Satan to test Jobs faith because He knew Job would stand true. Satan wanted to destroy Job because he loved God. if you read your Bible you will see God favored Job and Satan thought thats why Job loved and honored God. Job showed that he did not love the Lord because of the wordly gain the Lord had blessed him with. He loved and honored God through every trial Satan threw at him. that is true love. Guess old Satan didnt win that one, did he? And god blessed Job abundently.

Answer 6

I don't know... Look at it from Satan's perspective; maybe God is going to let him win, like when your dad let you win at cards or chess or whatever. Satan probably figures that God knows the answer, but what he doesn't know is what the answer IS. The only one in this scenario who knew the outcome for certain was God. So Satan was actually somewhat less culpable in the torture of a Godly man than God himself.

Answer 7

it is unthinkable God would treat a man like that. the writter could not know what God or stan said unless told by God I think it is one of the bible storys we can not take litteraly but we should learn from. I am not saying it is not from God I believe it is telling us if we trust God what ever satan may do to us God will repay double.

Answer 8

Good question. I dont honestly think this story really happend but others will suggest it did. I think it should just be taken as a moral value story. To think that God would give into satan even an inch is to think falsely imo.

Answer 9

I agree. I don't understand the whole "God already knows" thing either. It's like this life is just a game for God to play us and he knows what's going to happen so what's the point?! yeah, I don't understand it at all.

Answer 10

The book of Job presents a thorny issue indeed. It is fodder for the skeptic and for those who believe in the God of the Bible, it presents a truth about God that we don't care much to think about.
God created all things (including humans) for His glory alone. He gets His glory from us as He sees fit. In Job's case the human response centers around Job's response to his wife's suggestion that he just curse God and die. Job replies...Shall we accept good from God and not evil as well (paraphrased). In II Corinthians Paul understands that when he says that he glories in his weakness--an affliction sent on him by God--because in human weakness Christ's strenght is made perfect--in other words Christ's strenght is revealed in our weakness, not by our weakness.
The messy truth is that all reality is really all about God. More fodder for the skeptic I suppose, more unsettling truth for the believer.