First of all, sorry about your situation. One thing that I do know is that separating from the DEP is possible. To somebody in your situation I would even recommend it. But my advice to you is to get everything from now on in writing if you still plan on joining the military. Good luck in whatever you do.
2007-06-07 22:50:55
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answered by Jeremy P 3
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Not all recruiters are dirt bags. Some a great people who want to do the best for the people they work with.
Yours sounds like a dirt bag. The DEP is non-binding. But before you act, your job choice should be in your contract. Like the post above me said, look at the DD1966. On the second page you will find block 32. In block 32, your MOS along with some other information should be spelled out. It should also appear in the "Comments" section of page 4 of the same form.
Before you go raising a fuss, check to see if you have the MOS you wanted in your contract...if so, your recruiter can't change a thing. If not, WHY DID YOU SIGN A CONTRACT THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE MOS YOU WANTED?
The Army guarantees MOS in all contracts so you are probably ok. If not, there are ways to get out of the DEP. Go talk to a Army National Guard recruiter, he/she can look over your stuff and tell you your options. I recommend and NG recruiter because they don't have loyalty to the Active Duty office as the reserves or another recruiter might.
2007-06-08 03:34:46
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answered by Kilroy 4
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You can tell them you want to be released you are not on active duty. You have not taken the oath before you ship out. I was a navy recruiter so I had my fair share of DEPPERS who did want to ship for what ever reason. Just make sure that if you really want to join another branch that is what you want to do and do waste that recruiters time. I also make sure you do not have selective hearing the recruiter will only tell you what you ask them so understand that. I know that should go into the navy and they have placed you as mechanic that is what you be. They will not make you cook or something else it will be in writing. So that why I say be sure this what you want if not please don't waste yours or the recruiters time. Also be advised that a recruiter can not guarantee ANY thing only they really say is that provided you can pass the test and medical is that you get paid 2times a month and get 30 days of paid leave the rest is with the classifier @ meps so good luck I hope this helps.
2007-06-08 05:20:27
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answered by Anonymous
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What were the conditions you agreed to in writing when you signed the paperwork for DEP? If you had not reached your 18th birthday and your parent or legal guardian had not given their written permission for you to sign an agreement, it may not be legally binding. If you were at least 18 years of age when you signed up for DEP, then your options are more limited. You should check to see if your state allows for a cooling of period for contract signings. If so, are you within that time frame? You could also call other recruiters, from other services and ask their opinions, the answers are not binding, but they may be helpful. Write to your congressional representatives and file a very specific complaint enumerating the guarantees that you believe the recruiter made to you and are now being changed or excluded. You will also want to file a complaint with the recruiting command for that particular service. If a military post is close by, trying calling their Judge Advocate General's office and ask them if they will talk to you about the situation. You may want to lodge complaints with your state's Attorney General and the BBB.
2007-06-07 23:37:34
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answered by ZoneRider 4
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as you can see everyone thinks their an expert, just like in any area there are bad apples in every bunch. In my experience Army recruiters seem to do more bullshitting then any other branch but who knows. And No its not Bush's fault like that one dumbass said. Anyways you are not totally sqrewed since you are only in the dep. try researching it at military.com. There is a process to get out of the dep. Or if your interested in another branch, if I may suggest the Marine Corps try seeing one of their recruiters they would be able to tell you how to handle the situation. Another option would be once you do some more research put your foot down with your recruiter. he/she needs you to meet quotas you have the power, and make sure you let them know you know that you can get out of the dep.
Hope I could be some help.
2007-06-07 19:07:25
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answered by dv44bass 2
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When you went to MEPS, you signed a contract. With the Army, you signed two forms. Pull out your contract and look at it. Down at the bottom left corner you will see "DD Form xxxx". This is your contract with the US Government.
There is ANOTHER form "DA Form xxxx" that you signed as well, and were provided a copy of. THIS form has your job listed on it. This is the contract between you and the Army where you were guaranteed to learn THIS job ( whatever job you picked).
Now, what is he trying to "back out on"? Your job? He can't. You picked the job, it was written on the contract, you signed it, the Army MEPS counselor signed it, and you received a copy. You have job, guaranteed, that you picked. I'm trying to figure out what is wrong?
Oh, BTW, I gave a LOT of thumbs down on the anwers above me. Not only do they not have a clue, but they are giving you bad information. It will do NO good to call the IG on the nearest installation, or write your Congressman, or anything like that. Sitting down with the station commander is a GREAT idea. Yes, I was an Army recruiter. No, I didn't lie to my kids.
Good luck
2007-06-08 00:30:34
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answered by My world 6
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my first and foremost advice is to calm down, you have done nothing that you cannot get out of. Now with that said it is not going to be easy to get out of but it is doable. The first thing you need to do is decide if the military is for you or not. If it still is you need to decide what branch you want to enlist in. My advice for this is look around and talk to more than one branch. They all have their pros and cons it is what works for you that matters. Also understand being a recruiter is a job, they have a boss breathing down their necks just like everyone else in life. Is it wise for them to lie, not really. Does it happen all the time, yes. Once you have made your decision ask all the questions you want to ask, take a friend with you or a parent that will help you sort it all out when you are done talking. Now getting out of the dep program is easy and hard at the same time. As soon as you tell them you want out they are going to give you a hard time and tell you that you cannot do that. It is absolutly untrue, until you sware in the day that you leave for boot camp you are not enlisted in any branch of service. However, this does not stop them from telling you all sorts of crap, and just to warn you they will take forever to release you from the dep. Just keep telling them that you don't want to enlist in that branch and leave it at that. Everything that you have done up till this point is reversable, but don't and I repeat don't sign anything until you read it carefully. You will be fine just stick to your decision and don't let them talk you out of it. Good luck.
2007-06-07 19:39:58
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answered by calraisin_98 2
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There's nothing you can do, but if you signed papers for your specific MOS, then you will get that one because you signed. If the Army tries to reclassify you, then you have a choice whether to do it, or get out. they can't make you sign for a new job if you don't want it. Your MOS is the one thing that is guaranteed. But I'm sorry that you didnt know that one of the requirements of being a recruiter is to be a liar. When you get to Basic Training, one of the first things our Drill Sergeants will tell you is that your recruiter lied to you.
2007-06-07 18:51:20
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answered by rainydayz 3
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My hubby had the same thing happen to him when he enlisted. Here is what he did:
When he went to MEPS and sat down with the person who was to assign him his job, he told them what he wanted (which was MP). They told him that they coudn't do that for him and my husband got up and walked away. Surprisingly, an opening came up for his chosen job and he got it. Remember that to get the MOS that you want, you have to have an ASVAB score that is high enough and you have to successfully complete AIT for that MOS after you go through basic.
It sounds like your recruiter is a fast talker and probably a dirtbag, but if your only concern is what job you get put into, you can take care of that when you get to MEPS. You do NOT have to sign anything at ALL if you don't get the job you want. Best of luck to you and I hope you get the job you want!!
2007-06-07 23:30:04
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answered by Anonymous
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Call your closest base and call the Inspector Generals office. Also, write or call your local congressman. Also, talk to a Navy or Air Force recruiter and see if you can get in there instead. The Army does have a habit of implying things that just ain't true.
2007-06-07 19:01:43
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answered by ProLife Liberal 5
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