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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I read on here that one of the names Satan is referred to is "the Bright and Morning Star". However, in Rev Ch. 22, we find this verse:

(Rev 22:16 KJV) "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, [and] the bright and morning star."

Can someone please explain the discrepancy? It seems clear that Jesus is referring to himself in this verse.

2007-06-07 15:48:37 · 24 answers · asked by Nels 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Also, it shows that Jesus was also the offspring of David through Mary, of the tribe of Judah and not Levi, as is commonly believed.

2007-06-07 16:10:14 · update #1

24 answers

Wow DimpleGirl, you're right on!

Here's the simple answer:

“Lucifer” is mentioned only once in the biblical text of the Old Testament. The name is a translation of “the Son of the Morning.” Interestingly, Christ is likewise referred to as the “bright and morning star” as you quoted. This "bright and morning star" signifies the resurrection unto eternal life exemplified by Christ—he being the first “bright and morning star” to rise from the darkness of night (death).

This is the correct translation of Revelation 1:5.

Therefore, I, John, a faithful witness, bear record of the things which were delivered me of the angel of God, who is Jesus Christ, the first begotten of the Father in the flesh, and he who was risen first from the dead, and who shall overcome Lucifer, the prince of the kings of the earth.


Jesus became mortal and received a body of flesh, which “flesh,” or human nature, when revealed according to its true meaning, is synonymous with Lucifer, often referred to as “the devil” or “Satan.” In the symbolic relation given in which Jesus is tempted by the devil, he was contemplating the vast powers passed on to him from the DNA patterns of God, when his human side began to tempt him.

If Lucifer were an actual personage, why would Jesus allow him to “take him up into the holy city” or “take him up into an exceeding high mountain”? The conversation took place in Jesus’ mind. The experience was shared with his disciples to teach them that serving God is more important than giving in to human nature and its desires. In essence, John is say-ing that Jesus was born into the same mortal flesh as the rest of us, but overcame the flesh. He was born into the world to teach us by his example and laws how to overcome our own flesh (Lucifer), which in reality is our human nature—“the prince of the kings of the earth.”

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2007-06-07 18:26:11 · answer #1 · answered by smallone 4 · 0 0

This is a hard one. I do not yet know what the correct interpretation of these verses should be. However, I will mention two of the more common answers.

The first is quite simple. Some point out that it is only in the NIV Bible that "bright and morning star" is used to describe both Satan and Jesus. In the KJV "Lucifer" is used rather than "bright and morning star" to describe Satan.

The second is a little more involved. It focuses more on the phrase "bright and morning star" than on which version of the Bible is used. In this interpretation the phrase is said to refer to the astronomical occurrence in which Venus rises to signal the start of a new day. So, in the Old Testament when the phrase "bright and morning star" is used it is talking about a new day. A day that specifically refers to a Babylonian King bringing about the start of his nation (which BTW supposedly still exists in some fashion today). Then when it is used in Revelation it is said that it refers to the new day that Jesus will bring into existence when He returns to rule the earth for a 1000 years. So, in essence, it is not a name but a description of what a specific individual will do.

Like I said earlier...I don't know.

Just food for thought.

~Neeva

2007-06-07 16:29:06 · answer #2 · answered by Neeva C 4 · 0 0

The bright and morning star in Revelations 22:16 refers back to Rev 2:26-28. I read the NAB and it does have [and] in Rev. 22:16 which makes a big difference. This is tells us that Jesus is the of the bloodline of King David. He is the bright and morning star.

See Isaiah 14: 12, "how have you fallen from the Heavens, O morning star, son of the dawn! How are you cut down to the ground, you who mowed down the nations!" The footnote in the NAB say the 'morning star refers to the king of Babylon. The Vulgate has 'Lucifer', a name applied by the church Fathers to Satan." I've also read that Lucifer means 'brightest star'.


In Rev. 22:16 Jesus is referring to Himself. There is no reference of Lucifer's name in the Bible in the OT. Only in Hebrew.

2007-06-07 16:12:00 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You will read many things on here that is not in the bible or even anywhere near the truth. As for the Bright and morning star, it is Jesus. Jesus is called by many terms in the bible and if you read and do your studying, you will find that Lucifer, or Satan as he was later called, was a covering cherub and actually spread his wings over the throne of God and he was the most beautiful of all the angels. then he wanted to be above God which is what caused his troubles. Envy did it or ego if you will. By the time those things that are happening in the Rev. 22 quote, Satan has already been done away with as well as all the wicked that followed him so no way he could be considered as that.

2007-06-07 15:56:37 · answer #4 · answered by ramall1to 5 · 0 0

Yes, in Isaiah 14:12 is talking about satan but later verses describe jesus as the morning star, 2 Pet. 1:19, Rev. 2:28

2007-06-07 16:14:32 · answer #5 · answered by didnotknow123 2 · 0 0

Jesus is called the morning star in Revelation 22: 16. If you look at 2 Peter 1:19, it says:

And we have the word of the prophets made more certain, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts.

"the morning star" in this verse is a reference to Psalm 119: 105

Your word is a lamp to my feet
and a light for my path.

In Isaiah 14: 12 though, satan is referred to as the morning star and son of the dawn. We know this is a reference to satan becaus of the context of the following verses.

12 How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!

13 You said in your heart,
"I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;
I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. [c]

14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High."

15 But you are brought down to the grave,
to the depths of the pit.

Luke 10: 18 says:
He replied, "I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven."

"He" is God. this means that his descent from heaven was quick like lightning. It was immediate. Like a falling star is quick, and only lasts a split second.

satan is also called Lucifer which means bringer of light. This is why he is called the morning star. He was the top angel until his rebellion. Then, he fell(like a falling star) from heaven.

You could say that stars represent heavenly beings such as angels, fallen angels( who are not so heavenly anymore), and Christ himself. But, just as whats his face who answered first, said, it is used as a metaphor for many different things.

So, yes, this verse is referring to Jesus. But, always use the context of a passage to find out who it is referring to.

My high school youth minister did about a 9 month bible study on Revelation on Monday nights.

2007-06-07 16:59:36 · answer #6 · answered by toshiomagic 3 · 0 0

In Isaiah 14:12 Lucifer (Satan) is referred to as the son of the morning. No capitals to signify a title of respect. This is not a discrepancy.

2007-06-07 16:17:13 · answer #7 · answered by missywose 6 · 0 0

In the King James bible Lucifer is called "son of the morning" in Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

In the New International Version, also called the Not Inspired Version this is how Isaiah 14:12 reads -
How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!

As you can see, the producers of the NIV, knowing full well that Jesus is the Morning Star took it upon themselves to pervert the word of God, and make it say what it does not say.

You might ask how this could happen. The answer is that God has preserved his word, and has given it to us; we have the King James bible which is the word of God to us today; but men have sought out devices with which to try to bring about a New World Order under the leadership of Lucifer himself.

2007-06-07 16:07:05 · answer #8 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 0 0

Satan often comes as an angel of light to deceive 2 Cor.11:14 but I have never heard him referred to as the bright and Morning Star. That is not biblical.

2007-06-07 15:57:22 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

There is no discrepancy and you have answered your own question. - "It seems clear that Jesus is referring to himself in this verse."

You have to read the text in context with the rest of the verses in the chapter. In a different chapter in a different book (Isaiah 14), the morning star" refers to Satan.

In one chapter and verse, "the rock" refers to Jesus (1 Cor 10: 4), in a different chapter and book, "the rock" refers to Peter (Matt 16: 18).

Different chapter and book, different contxt and different person bing referenced. It is like using the pronoun "he". Sometimes "he" refers to Jesus, sometimes ot Adam, sometimes to Ezekiel, etc.

2007-06-07 15:55:39 · answer #10 · answered by Sldgman 7 · 0 0

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