why is abortion wrong but war ok?

Question

why is wrong to kill innocent "babies" but ok to kill thousands of innocent iraqi citizens?

Answer 1

War is almost never "okay."

Catholics use the rigorous consideration of the “just war” doctrine to determine if defense by military force is legitimate.

Offensive war is never justified.

All the following considerations must be true to justify war:
1. The damage inflicted by the aggressor on the nation or community of nations must be lasting, grave, and certain;
2. All other means of putting an end to it must have been shown to be impractical or ineffective;
3. There must be serious prospects of success;
4. The use of arms must not produce evils and disorders graver than the evil to be eliminated.

It has been argued the pre-war Iraq:
1. Was not inflicting lasting, grave and certain damage to the United States;
2. Could have been influenced by diplomatic and international sanctions.

It is argued now that:
3. There is not a serious prospect of success;
4. The use of arms has produced evils and disorders greater than the evil eliminated.

The "new" philosophy of the United States to launch wars to get them before they get us can even be argued as an offensive war which would not be justified.

With love in Christ.

Answer 2

I would agree that Iraqis blowing up other Iraqis is tragic. The fall out of years of torture and killing of its own citizens will not stop immediately because there is a new sheriff. And so I would quote Layla who has a completely different take of what it means to be Muslin than those who were taking women out into the Afghanistan soccer fields and murdering them in front of the crowds that watched.

This and what is going on in Iraq is a very different view on what it means to be Muslim than what Layla said:

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But it can move to society here are the rules as the Quran says so

The opponent must always have started the fighting.
It must not be fought to gain territory.
It must be launched by a religious leader.
It must be fought to bring about good - something that Allah will approve of.
Every other way of solving the problem must be tried before resorting to war.
Innocent people should not be killed.
Women, children, or old people should not be killed or hurt.
Women must not be raped.
Enemies must be treated with justice.
Wounded enemy soldiers must be treated in exactly the same way as one's own soldiers.
The war must stop as soon as the enemy asks for peace.
Property must not be damaged.
Poisoning wells is forbidden. The modern analogy would be chemical or biological warfare. >>>

I wish the Muslims like Layla would be as vocal about their position to those who have a different view of what Jihad is in Iraq. I wished all the Muslim leaders would speak that Layla's view was the real Muslim view publically on CNN as much as the other Muslims dispute Layla's position.


If so, there would not have been the torture and rape room in Iraq just 7 years ago that the media didn't report in exchange for being able to stay in the country and make money reporting what the government approved.

And had Layla said in Afghanistan 7 years ago what she said today, she would have been one of those shot in the soccer stadium with thousand of Muslims (not Jews or Christians, or those from the west) cheering. Did you see the torture book with the pictures of the 40 Muslims who were tortured by othe Muslims last week?

I think the key link is innocent. The innocent need the strong to assist them. So whether it is innocent babies dieing or the hundred of thousand Iraqi citizens being slaughter by Muslims with different views, we have to unite against the oppressors at the risk of the far left wing media saying that we are the aggressor.

Answer 3

obviously killing is not a problem

if you kill the unborn, you reduce the chance for the zealots to convert the impressionable youths who, not knowing their own faith, will try and usually successfully make new converts who likewise only know how to hate and be a bigot to others for unexplained and learned reasons

killing others is usually religiously motivated, most murders were from invasions and wars based on fear of other's faith or political dispositions, part of the struggle for Power, Control, and Authority in which we find Religion 101 basic premises

Answer 4

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