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What are some verses that show that you are not once saved always saved?

2007-06-07 11:34:20 · 16 answers · asked by Luke K 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I've noticed that people that claim this belief is true have no scriptural backing but those who don't believe in this belief have a lot of scriptural backing.

2007-06-07 12:10:41 · update #1

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If another person gives us something as a grace—as a gift—and even if we did nothing to deserve it (though frequently gifts are given based on our having pleased the one bestowing the gift), it in no way follows that our actions are irrelevant to whether or not we keep the gift. We can lose it in all kinds of ways. We can misplace it, destroy it, give it to someone else, take it back to the store. We may even forfeit something we were given by later displeasing the one who gave it—as when a person has been appointed to a special position but is later stripped of that position on account of mismanagement.

While the idea that what is received without merit cannot be lost by demerit may have a kind of poetic charm for some, it does not stand up when compared with the way things really work—either in the everyday world or in the Bible.



"He who endures to the end will be saved" (Matt. 24:13)

See then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, provided you continue in his kindness; otherwise you too will be cut off" (Rom. 11:22)

‘Not everyone who says to me, "Lord, Lord" shall enter the kingdom of heaven’ (Matt. 7:21)."

"I am not aware of anything against myself, but I am not thereby justified [Gk., dedikaiomai]. It is the Lord who judges me" (1 Cor. 4:4)

"I pummel my body and subdue it, lest after preaching to others I myself should be disqualified" (1 Cor. 9:27)

Jesus told us, there are those who "believe for a while and in time of temptation fall away" (Luke 8:13)

Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, so now, not only as in my presence but much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling." ( Philippians 2:12 )

Certainly, Christ did die on the cross once for all and has entered into the holy place in heaven to appear before God on our behalf. Christ has abundantly provided for our salvation, but that does not mean that there is no process by which this is applied to us as individuals. Obviously, there is, or we would have been saved and justified from all eternity, with no need to repent or have faith or anything else. We would have been born "saved," with no need to be born again. Since we were not, since it is necessary for those who hear the gospel to repent and embrace it, there is a time at which we come to be reconciled to God.

2007-06-07 11:44:18 · answer #1 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 1 0

Matthew 12:31

2007-06-07 11:39:25 · answer #2 · answered by cbmultiplechoice 5 · 1 0

The answer of this questions, depends from your religious point of view. If you are catholic, you may think that you can't the salvation only by apparently devoted faith, you will need to make good materials efforts to get it. But if you are "protestant" (depending on what kind of group you are, because there thousand that feel and think very different), you will be saved by only one condition: to have faith. Some groups, like Calvinists think that you are predestined (saying, if God, from very start thought that you will be saved, nobody, even the sin, will put that salvation away). Majority groups think not.

2007-06-07 11:44:36 · answer #3 · answered by timmysanz 2 · 0 1

I do not know where verses like that are. However, If you were falling off a cliff and I threw you a rope and told you to hold on and I would pull you to safety. Could you be saved if you did not hold on?

Jesus attoned so that we may repent and be saved.
If we do not follow his instruction and repent how can we be saved?

2007-06-07 11:44:03 · answer #4 · answered by Rosietrue 1 · 1 1

Romans 7:14 “For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.
20 Now if I do that I would not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
21 I find then a law, that, when I would do good, evil is present with me.
22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man:
23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.
24 O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death?”

Romans 8:1 “There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.”

Ezekiel 18:24 “But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.”

Hebrews 10:23 “Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)
24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,”


GOD bless

2007-06-07 11:38:58 · answer #5 · answered by Exodus 20:1-17 6 · 0 0

Once saved always saved is true, if in fact you were genuine in the first place. Falling away is for those that were never saved in the first place. Thus Jesus will say, I never knew you...Away from me you evil doer.

Matt

2007-06-07 11:38:40 · answer #6 · answered by ? 2 · 1 2

wouldn't it make more sense to just trust that Jesus has accomplished it all at Calvary and that your belief in Him as Lord and Savior is enough? When people say that you can lose your salvation its like saying, "God the cross wasn't good enough! could you send your Son back? Christ died for all sin--its been paid for and just trust that He is faithful.

2007-06-07 11:41:49 · answer #7 · answered by studentofword84 3 · 0 2

Dear Luke,

There are no verses that support the idea that one can lose their salvation. However, many people misinterpret verses to arrive at that conclusion.

"For many are called, but few are chosen."

"For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them."

2007-06-07 11:44:18 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

You have to ask Jesus Christ into your heart and believe that he died on the cross for your sins....the entire Old Testament shows that your question is not valid. God Bless

2007-06-07 11:38:16 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 2

Hebrews 10:26
the parable of the banquet (you know, the party crasher)
"a dog returning to its vomit"
Paul saying "they were with us, but not of us"

2007-06-07 11:36:39 · answer #10 · answered by Hey, Ray 6 · 0 1

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