The scripture says when Adam fell it envoked the curse of sin meaning every person born afterwards would be born with a sin nature. What the bible is describing is a nature that is in total rebellion against God 24 hours a day seven days a week. This rebellion generates desires to do evil things like rape, shedding innocent blood, stealing, etc.
It is called the Sin Nature and according to the bible it is not even able to subject itself to God and sometimes it overwhelms the person causing dilemmas like good people snapping and comitting horroble acts. You ARE able to ask God to come coexist inside of you and give you power to resist this sin nature and find health, peace and heaven too. Dosen't that at least make sense?
2007-06-07 06:34:40 · 38 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I highly recommend you do not engage the atheists in this manner. First they don't care what the Bible says. Second they don't believe in God. So everything you said is pretty much worthless. They are just going to turn it around, twist it, misunderstand it and throw it back in your face. And ultimately you're not going to get anywhere.
2007-06-07 06:42:44 · answer #1 · answered by blizgamer333 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
No, that makes no sense at all. I have never had a desire to rape or shed innocent blood. I am not in rebellion at all times.
The fact that Christians continue to sin and do the same stuff every day as everyone else, shows very clearly with emprical data that what you say is false.
The fact that one would need to be possessed by a deity to become a decent human being makes zero sense at all. That is a truly morally bankrupt outlook.
The whole story of the fall doesn't make any sense at all. Just because someone said something is so, doesn't make it so.
2007-06-07 06:45:39 · answer #2 · answered by KC 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
If your premise about our basic nature is true, please explain why the overwhelming majority of all war and bloodshed has been in the name of some God? I don't recall a large number of bloody conflicts due to a single atheist defending his right to live his life without the intervention of some contrived deity.
If you can base your theistic argument on the bible, I should be able to base my atheistic view point on nature. How many animals in the wild kill for any reason other than survival? While the tiger is an able murderer, it does it as a means for procuring the nutrition it needs to stay alive. Tigers don't kill more than they can eat, and unless some bigger predator chases them off, will eat whatever they kill. Sounds like the basic nature you speak about is the survival instinct.
2007-06-07 08:02:14 · answer #3 · answered by carmandnee 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
No. Did it ever occur to you that what you Christians claim to be "god's teaching" is simply the way human beings are? Look at the other animals (Man is really just a highly evolved animal) and observe their behavior. They are almost the same as mankind is to those of their own species. Rarely do they kill those of their own kind(...mankind seems to have a problem with that though). Nope, I believe all this moral stuff is not because of some religious thing but simply people doing what seems right for other people. We don't need an imaginary deity to "show us the way'.
2007-06-07 06:43:50 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
No. Most people have it in their nature to NOT rape, kill and steal, and it has nothing to do with "God". Anyone with some intelligence, common sense, and the ability to empathize with their fellow human beings can live a good, decent, moral life.
I don't know a SINGLE atheist who lives what anyone would call a "sinful" life. They're all just average Jane's & Joe's, going to work to earn a living, and coming home and lovingly taking care of their families. I certainly don't know any who rape, steal, or kill.
2007-06-07 06:42:02 · answer #5 · answered by Jess H 7 · 4⤊ 0⤋
"Dosen't that at least make sense? "
Not desperately. Other ideas are at least as viable.
How about: Humans as animals having a competitive nature modified by generations upon generations of living in groups, tribes and communities where at least a degree of co-operation has a survival value.
And, your way, this God has deliberately inflicted painful childbirth of every female from Eve on. (Genesis 3:16)
Not a great act of benevolence, seen from the outside.
And then there are plenty of people, including theists, who have done terrible things convinced they were doing good.
And have you actually established god exists, beyond the concept?
2007-06-07 06:53:42 · answer #6 · answered by Pedestal 42 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
I do just fine on my own, I don't rape, shed even guilty blood, steal (except hearts). Why would I need God to keep me away from that, it's called laws, morals, and ethics. Sure I do things the Bible frowns upon, but there's more things in the Bible that I frown upon, like it's stance towards women, gays, poly-cotton blends, etc. Face it your religion is poppycock, and Christians seem to believe without God it would be complete anarchy, which makes me scared.
2007-06-07 06:41:27 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 4⤊ 0⤋
Wrong, I sure don't want anybody to be inside of me. I have enough health problems already.
All of you spiel makes sense to those who believe that whatever the bible says can't be questioned. How about those who think the bible is only a book made up of scraps of writing by superstitious people who lived two thousand years ago, and had no special training, just their run-away imaginations ?
2007-06-07 06:45:03 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋
honestly it doesnt make sense that a loving and caring god would 'curse' his children, all of them from the first to the last, with an almsost insurmountable urge to commit evil, and then subsequently damn those same children for succumbing to the urges that he himself had cursed us with.
This is the behaviour of a madman.
Why should all of humanity suffer so? It is illogical.
And quite honeslty, i have no desire to rape women or steal things, so this 'sinful nature' argument doesn't really stand to begin with.
2007-06-07 06:41:40 · answer #9 · answered by andrew r 2 · 4⤊ 0⤋
My basic nature doesn't make me want to rape, kill, or steal. I'm not Christian or even theistic, and I have almost no compunction to do any of those things. It has nothing to do with God, it has to do with the chemical balance in my brain.
There is no evidence to suggest that there is a basic instinct in humans that makes us "sinful." Morality is taught, but it has nothing to do with religion. It has to do with the socialization process that allows us to put ourselves in other's shoes. Empathy, or compassion, not a mandate from a supernatural entity. It's a natural part of our brain's development through childhood.
2007-06-07 06:44:30 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2⤊ 0⤋