Mormons: What does it mean to "atone for our own sins?" Do you love your wife and brother enough to kill them?

Question

Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife, an put a javelin through both of them, you would be justified, and they would atone for their sins, and be received into the kingdom of God. I would at once do so in such a case; and under such circumstances, I have no wife whom I love so well that I would not put a javelin through her heart, and I would do it with clean hands.
Author: Brigham Young
Source: Journal Of Discourses
Volume: 3
Page: 247

There is not a man or woman, who violates the covenants made with their God, that will not be required to pay the debt. The blood of Christ will never wipe that out, your own blood must atone for it;
Author: Brigham Young
Source: Journal Of Discourses
Volume: 3
Page: 247

There are sins that men commit for which they cannot receive forgiveness in this world, or in that which is to come, and if they had their eyes open to see their true condition, they would be perfectly willing to have their blood spilt upon the ground, that the smoke thereof might ascend to heaven as an offering for their sins; and the smoking incense would atone for their sins, whereas, if such is not the case, they will stick to them and remain upon them in the spirit world.
Author: Bruce R. McConkie
Source: Journal Of Discourses
Volume: 4
Page: 53

I do know that there are sins committed, of such a nature that if the people did understand the doctrine of salvation, they would tremble because of their situation. And furthermore, I know that there are transgressors, who, if they knew themselves, and the only condition upon which they can obtain forgiveness, would beg of their brethren to shed their blood, that the smoke thereof might ascend to God as an offering to appease the wrath that is kindled against them, and that the law might have its course. I will say further; I have had men come to me and offer their lives to atone for their sins.
Author: Brigham Young
Source: Journal Of Discourses
Volume: 4
Page: 54

PS: Read the above quotes before answering (including you, Roshan).

EDIT: Bruce R. McConkie's remarks come from his book Mormon Doctrine, and not from JoD.

Answer 1

The Journal of Discourses are talks given in the mid 19th century. They are good to read, but give no new doctrines.
They aren't scripture but are the opinions of the author.

1. One mistake you made...Bruce McConkie was never in the 19th century so he never made a talk that it is in the Journal Of Discources.

2. Like one Answerer said they are taken out of context.

Answer 2

To atone for your sins means to repent of them, forsake them and never do them again. Christ atoned for the sins of every one of us. Does that mean that because He did this we are automatically saved? No. It means that we have to use that atonement for ourselves.

The quotes you gave were taken out of context of the talks that were given. The rest of the second paragraph says this: and the judgments of the Almighty will come, sooner or later, and every man and woman will have to atone for breaking their covenants. To what degree? Will they have to go to hell? They are in hell enough now. I do not wish them in a greater hell, when their consciences condemn them all the time. Let compassion reign in our bosoms. Try to comprehend how weak we are, how we are organized, how the spirit and the flesh are continually at war.

The rest of the first one is this: But you who trifle with your covenants, be careful lest in judging you will be judged. The first part you "forgot" to put in is this: You say, "That man ought to die for transgressing the law of God." He is making a point. When it's taken out of context, it can be twisted to mean whatever you want it to mean. He is trying to teach compassion. To show that we all sin, and eventually, we will have to pay for those sins. If you read the whole section, you will see what is really meant by this.

One last quote: There are sins that can be atoned for by an offering upon an altar, as in ancient days; and there are sins that the blood of a lamb, of a calf, or of turtle doves, cannot remit, but they must be atoned for by the blood of the man.
Source: Journal of Discourses Volume 4.

Answer 3

What Brigham is trying to tell you is that if we understood the suffering that our sins will bring upon us, we would willing desire to die for them rather than suffer the torment. Christ atoned for all of us on condition of repentance. If we do not repent, then we must suffer the penalty of our sins, which suffering caused Christ to bleed from every pore and to shrink and ask to be released from the assignment. But He did not shrink from His duty and finished the atonement for the children of men. However, it is up to us to accept His atonement. We need to repent of our sins or wish the mountains to fall upon us to hide us from God's presence because we will not wish to face Him knowing how guilty we are in our unrepentant state.
Brigham was hard to understand sometimes because he liked to talk in very direct terms and if you did not understand the context in which he made his statements, you would be shocked at his words. Obviously, that is what has happened to you.

Answer 4

wow. "Suppose you found your brother in bed with your wife" Definitly sounds like something that they would have said......in the 1800's. That is completly fake. It was made by people who undoubtedly hate us mormons. read the Book of Mormon and the Bible. They both teach against stuff like that.

Answer 5

That's the first I've heard it...but I'm guessing Buk..

Answer 6

Killl people? Mormons are nothing like that.

Answer 7

What? All of these quotes say that Killing is wrong. I am not sure what your point is.