Trinity Question?

Question

Does God depend on the other elements of trinity like Jesus and the Holy Ghost?

i.e. can God still be One without the other elements of Trinity?

If your answer is yes, isnt it a blasphemy to assume that God depends on something to exist?

If your answer is no, why bother teaching the trinity?

erm, switch 'yes' and 'no' in the previous questions :P

Since Jesus was born to a woman, and was human, I thought the question was pretty obvious.

Answer 1

God answers this Question when he says I AM who I AM

Answer 2

Why bother teaching the trinity? Why not? If it is the truth about God, or more accurately, as true as an approximation about the nature of an infinite god that we humans can understand, then WHY NOT teach everything that we know about God? Why be dishonest and hide some things just because certain truths might be confusing to some people? Your last statement makes no sense.

Do each part of the trinity need the other two in order to exist? Since all three parts of the trinity have always existed, then it is impossible to know for sure what would happen to, say, God the Holy Spirit if God the Father got mad at him and left.

But since the Bible says God the Father turned his back on God the Son while Jesus was dying on the cross (as a symbolic act), then the answer to you question must be "yes". The three elements are capable of independent existence and independent action if they so choose.

Since all three elements of the trinity are perfect, they always come to the same conclusion, so they never disagree. So they usually do not act independently, because there is no need.

Answer 3

Good question.

God doesn't have to depend on Jesus or the Holy Ghost to exist. But God the Father is the head of the Holy Trinity, Jesus Christ (God the Son) and the Holy Ghost/Spirit (aka the Comforter) being the other two.

Why bother teaching the Trinity? Because it's in God's Word. If it weren't meant to be known, the information wouldn't be there. Personally, I find the Trinity very heartwarming.

Answer 4

"Does God depend on the other elements of trinity like Jesus and the Holy Ghost?"
God depends on nothing because he has no needs. It might be the 'party' line, but that's true.

"If your answer is no, why bother teaching the trinity?"
The trinity was just a poetic attempt to describe the nature of God. It wasn't God's way of doing it ( that's in the Bible), but it was man's way of doing it. So yes, there are problems with the trinity that has been discussed by both clergy and non clergy for literal centuries. And it remains imperfect.

What to understand is that I don't have to put faith in any teaching about the "Trinity". Jesus didn't say, " Believe in the Trinity and be saved" , but he did say to believe in him, and to trust him. Then we are saved.

So yes, I believe in the trinity, such as that explanation is about God's nature, but I realize that it is only an attempt at a description, not meant to be a solid foundation of Christian truth.

Answer 5

So according to the Trinity doctrine, the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are coequal in power, authority and eternity. But the critical question is this: Did Jesus Christ and his apostles believe and teach the Trinity? If we believe that they did, we are faced with a number of very puzzling questions.

At Mark 13:32, Jesus Christ said: “But of that day or that hour [of God’s coming execution of judgment] no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.” But if the Father and the Son are coequal, how could the Son be ignorant of things the Father knows? ‘Jesus had two natures,’ some will answer. ‘Here he is speaking as a man.’ And, yet, even if that were so, what about the “Holy Ghost”? If it is the third person of the Trinity, why does it not know? A chain is only as strong as its weakest link. And the “Holy Ghost” is part of the Trinitarian chain.

Similarly, on an earlier occasion Jesus had said: “No one knows who the Son is except the Father, or who the Father is except the Son.” (Luke 10:22) Once again, what about the “Holy Ghost”? If it is a conscious part of the “Godhead,” coequal with the Father and the Son, why does it not know?

More than 20 years after Jesus died and ascended to heaven, the apostle Paul wrote: “‘For who has known the mind of the Lord [the Father] so as to instruct him?’ But we have the mind of Christ.” (1 Corinthians 2:16) How is it possible to have “the mind of Christ” and yet not know “the mind of the Lord”—if the Father and the Son are coequal?

Jesus repeatedly referred to the Father as “my God”—even after his return to heavenly glory. (Matthew 27:46; John 20:17; Revelation 3:2, 12) Only an inferior, a worshiper, can refer to another as “my God.” But why is it that not once do we find the Father addressing the Son as “my God”? And why is it that we never see the Father or the Son addressing the “Holy Ghost” as “my God”?

Answer 6

After reading about the Trinity here what i found

Remember, the bible mentions that Jesus himself said, "The father is greater than I" (John 14:28). Yet, the belief of Trinity says that the Father and the son are "equally God".

Another interesting point is, that if they were both the same, would they not both be aware of the same information? Yet Jesus said “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father.”—Mark 13:32.

One last point to highlight, is that the word "Trinity" never appears in the Bible.

Answer 7

Define God.

"elements" are in truth characteristics -

use "consists of" as opposed to "depend on"

Light bulb =
glass lamp + light + heat

God =
Knowledge - Wisdom - Understanding
God Jesus The Holy Spirit

Because the Trinity is true. That is why.

Answer 8

i think you first have to understand that God IS the trinity. there isn't a god and the trinity. if you question then is "can the Father still be one without the other persons in the trinity" then I'd have to disagree. because the trinity is a relationship between three persons who are one so without the other parts that relationship suffers. and i don't think it's blasphemy because God is the trinity...
hope it's clear, i tried my best...

Answer 9

Yes, I believe He is all three, here's a simple explanation.

You know how it says in Genesis 26 "Let us make man in OUR image..."?

If you belive that you have a 1. body
2. mind, will, and emotions
3. spirit, {lives on after the
body is dead}

than, how can you not understand the trinity? We were created in His image. He has a body: Jesus. Mind, will, and emotions: God. An eternal spirit: The Holy Spirit.

Answer 10

The whole point of the trinity is that God is all three and all three are one. It's kind of like saying that I'm deficient because I require a heart, brain, and lungs to survive, instead of just one super organ.

I do think that it's a little weird, though.

Answer 11

God, Jesus, Holy Spirit, and us (childern of God) are one.

H20 on 0 Celcius = ice
H20 between 0 and 100 Celcius = water
H20 greater than 100 Celcius = gas (smoke that come out from boiling water)

If you mix them all on 50 Celcius, can you seperate them again and tell which one the H20 is from ice, from water or from gas ???