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Recently, I read what I found to be a rather accurate description of the christian god. Do you agree?

"He does not play dice with the universe; he plays an ineffable game of his own devising, which might be compared from the perspective of the other players (ie-everyone else) to being an obscure and complex version of poker in a pitch-dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a dealer who won't tell you the rules and who smiles ALL THE TIME"

2007-06-06 18:46:48 · 9 answers · asked by lupinesidhe 7 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Really that scared, It seems that you did not read the wording. It's alright. Most people don't

2007-06-06 19:03:33 · update #1

9 answers

They forgot the part where some of the players don't have to be in the room. They just get the memo.

2007-06-07 00:18:35 · answer #1 · answered by shakalahar 4 · 1 0

Wasn't it Einstien who said the original version of this - "God does not play dice"?

I hope this isn't sidestepping the issue here but I think the problem with this is that you can't have an accurate description of God.
I'm studying for a postgrad in theology at Oxford at the moment and I heard a school of thought the other day that made some sense of this - holding on to any model of God (even an intellectual model) and saying "this is what God is like" is against the seccond commandment ("Thou shalt not make images of God") - God is more than any model.

What we can know, however is what his nature is. So we know that God's nature is to be good, to be fair, to be kind,etc. Any Christian theologian would take issue with the description you mention - if only because God has revealed himself (with the rules etc) in sending Jesus to earth as the ultimate union between God and Man. Because of the incarnation God can never be called distant from humanity... either emotionally or cognitively and because of the Christian understanding of the Holy Spirit being God come to live within each Christian, this becomes personal... so you can know God as accessible and knowable.

However - you're right in that God is so much greater than we can grasp (that being the point of him being God) so we are like toddlers playing with an Astrophysisist.

In terms of him smiling all the time - the concept of God not suffering was thrown out of the church as a herisy around the fourth century and was one of the main arguments that people used to suggest that Jesus couldn't possibly be God - Jesus suffered which implies that God can be changed by human suffering. The jourey is still out as to what this actually means but there's no doubt on the fact that - God weeps with our tears and laughs with our jokes!

Hope that helps!
Sally

2007-06-06 19:08:37 · answer #2 · answered by Grace 2 · 0 0

i could say it fairly is an completely precise & user-friendly assessment of the "God" defined interior the old testomony....the curious ingredient is that it fairly is allegedly the comparable "eternal & unchanging God" who's a lots nicer deity interior the recent testomony....("turn the different cheek..." fairly than "an eye fixed for an eye fixed...") If it quacks like a duck & walks like a duck, it fairly is in all probability a duck... "God" would or won't exist, yet whilst He does, He actual did no longer write the Bible!

2016-11-07 19:51:34 · answer #3 · answered by weatherby 4 · 0 0

How god looks like is difficult to comprehend.One light year is 5.8 trillion miles.Our solar system is 3.5 billion miles in radius and it took over ten years for a space probe at 25,000 MPH to get to that distance.The nearest star is over 5 light years away.It would take more the 50,000 years for the fastest space probe on Earth to travel that distance.The Milky Way Galaxy has 500,000,000,000 stars.Each one like our sun,each one possibly with planets.The entire galaxy is 100,000 light years in diameter.Light from one side of the galaxy takes 100,000 years to reach the other side.Human space probes would take over trillions of years to reach that distance.Even the size of the Milky Way is too much for us to comprehend.Within the closest stars to the sun,a few thousands,they have found over 230 planets,just imagine the whole Milky Way.

But thats not all,there are hundreds of billions of galaxies in the visible Universe.Some bigger,some smaller then Earth.

The furthest mankind has looked into space is 4 billion light years,using the Hubble Space telescope,this was seen in the tiniest patch of sky,appearing to have nothing,tens of thousands of galaxies were spotted.Light would take 4 billion years to reach that distance,human space probes would take quintillions of years,beyond human comprehension.Just imagine,hundreds of billions of galaxies visible to mankind,each one with hundreds of billions of stars,each star with the possibility of planets,each one with the possibility of a civilization.

Knowing all this,can humans really understand god's omniprescense,and even god's forms or anything about god.All that I explained is just the tiny parcel of the Universe mankind can see.God is the supreme energy,he is the supersoul within the soul of every being and the eternal destination.Our single Universe is so vast.Imagine the others?Imagine heaven?Imagine god's eternal abode?Certainly god is beyond human understanding,god can only be understood by someone who has deep love for god,who wants to find real meaning to life,who engages in religion.

The way god maintains the Universe and beyond is beyond human understanding,we cannot say god is some person in heaven,or in your case,some guy in a pitch-dark room sending everyone to hell or heaven depending on if they worship him in that specific form.

God can only be worshipped in three modes.Goodness,passion and ignorance,all religions work this way.The form of god you worship is your choice,but as long as its in the mode of goodness,as long as its pleasing to the soul,then its good.

2007-06-06 19:06:15 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No way. I dont see any relevance to 'God' only human emotions... so that is a good description of the devil though. Especially the reference to the blank cards.

2007-06-06 18:54:03 · answer #5 · answered by tacs1ave 3 · 0 2

Well it's possible, as is anything, however as a christian (Esoteric Christian Mystic) I believe God is beyond our limited mortal brains to understand and therefore beyond our ability to describe.

2007-06-06 18:53:14 · answer #6 · answered by Taliesin Pen Beirdd 5 · 1 1

It may seem like a crooked game, but, it's the only one in town.

2007-06-08 07:22:07 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

No. That is the description of a being who the author doesn't believe in. He doesn't believe in God, the creator, but he does? believe in ... god? ... I'm confused.

2007-06-06 18:53:21 · answer #8 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 0 2

Well, it's not HIS definition of HIM....

~~~a dealer who won't tell you the rules ~~~

you just don't like the rules...

2007-06-06 18:59:39 · answer #9 · answered by r_u_really_that_scared 6 · 0 1

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