Do Muslims realize the story of Jinn was taken from a Jewish fable?

Question

Amani. Abraham said the lord would provide himself a lamb...Do you agree that Allah provided the lamb of God for your salvation? Surely a different God worshiped by Jew's and Christian's than Allah of Islam.

The Qu'ran plagerized the Second Targum of Esther. A Jewish fable Muhammad mistook for scripture.

Majnun...reasearch the Second Targum of Esther...

Lemon the problem with your Philosphy is the Scecond Targum of Esther was never and is not now consdered scripture... as in it wasnt written by a Prophet.. It was not meant to be a true story ...Muhammad erred.

lemon If you do research or even read your Qu'ran it tells you that the Bible is the word of God... The Bbile we study is older than the Qu'ran and yet Allah claimed it... Allah said you should trust his word and no one can change his word... The Bible at the time of Muhammad did teach the atonement...therfore Allah agreed with it while he atught against it....does this make sense to you? I think Muhammad did not know the true word fo God.

hfghs Read the true words of the prophets and understand the lamb of God is the Messiah that did atone for sin...Isaiah

majnun If you read the Bible you would see thay are in no way the same God. Sorry it doesnt take alot of reading the Qu'ran to see the obvious differences.

majnun the God that existed before Muhammad Is absolute righteousness and could not simply overlook your sin. the Bible does say the wages of sin is death...Muhammad's Allah simply forgives and you earn your salvation. The God of the Bible you can't earn salvation as the creator owe his creation. We are indebted to God. god of the bbile paid the peanlty of death for us....The Allah of Islam says he did not and denies the Savior...You don't see these differences?

Adamjer it is not an insult to speak the truth...the Allah of Islam claims to be the God of Abraham...The God of Abraham never mentioned creating Jinn... thier is a jewish fable of Jinn that predates the Qu'ran which tells of soloman and sheba and Jinn this fable was mistaken by Muhammad as scripture and was included in the Qu'ran as scripture. The God of Abrham did not create Jinn... It is from the Targum of Esther which is not scripture but fable.

Mo "The Arbian Nights" and such stories originate from approximately 800 to 900 AD, which is well after the Targum of Esther and even several hundred years after the Qu'ran itself.
research has shown me that these myths are influenced by the Qu'ran which was influenced by the Jewish fable called the Second Targum of Esther, the 2nd Targum of Esther, in origin, is indeed pre-Islamic and arguably even pre-Christian. These stories of the Arabian Nights and Jinn did not lead to the Qu'ranic story of Jinn but the Second Targum of Esther was the influence even of these stories.

Answer 1

Not sure about that example but there were certainly all kinds of stories floating around Arabia at the time of Muhammad, many of them from the Hebrew Bible and Talmud; others from the Christian Bible; others from Persia.

The Arabs were an illiterate people but had a great tradition of story telling (1,001 nights for example of this).

Some imaginative combining and mix-mashing of these stories, and you have a Qur'an.

Answer 2

If you're going to make statements like that, it would help if you gave references. Where did you get your information?

I haven't researched it, but I think the Jinn stories probably originated in pre-Islamic Arabia. Jinn are mentioned in the Quran maybe once or twice.

Allah, God, YHVH are one and the same. If you read the Quran with an open mind, you would know that.

I will try to find out more about the book you mention, but I don't really understand your point. Jinn are a rather obscure topic; rather like the giants mentioned in the Book of Genesis. There were giants in Greek and other ancient mythology--does that take away from the BIble? I don't think so. Conversely, I don't see how some obscure figures like Jinn being in a Jewish book does anything to discredit Islam.

I don't see these "obvious difference" that you write of. I read the Bible and the Quran and I see the "obvious sameness."
As Muhammad said; "To you be your religion, and to me, shall be mine." Peace be upon you, and thank you for the lively discussion.

Answer 3

Jinns are one of the crteations of Allah as one can see the below Quran, verse 100 of Sura Al- An’am. Islam does not get the idea of Jinns from Jews. Before any one does not ilsult a religion and people who believe it. It would have been better if that person to seek knowledge.


100 Yet they make the Jinns equals with Allah though Allah did create the Jinns; and they falsely having no knowledge attribute to Him sons and daughters. Praise and glory be to Him! (for He is) above what they attribute to Him!. 929
929 Jinns: who are they? In xviii. 50 we are told that Iblis was one of the Jinns, and it is suggested that that was why he disobeyed the Command of God. But in that passage and other similar passages, we are told that God commanded the angels to bow down to Adam, and they obeyed except Iblis. That implies that Iblis had been of the company of angels. In many passages Jinns and men are spoken of together. In lv. 14-15, man is stated to have been created from clay, while Jinns from a flame of fire. The root meaning of junna, yujannu, is "to be covered or hidden," and janna yajunnu, in the active voice, "to cover or hide," as in vi. 76. Some people say that jinn therefore means the hidden qualities or capacities in man; others that it means wild or jungle folk hidden in the hills or forests. I do not wish to be dogmatic, but I think, from a collation and study of the Quranic passages, that the meaning is simply "a spirit," or an invisible or hidden force. In folklore stories and romances like the Arabian Nights they become personified into fantastic forms, but with them we are not concerned here. (6.100)

Answer 4

your question makes no sense. Yes God has provide a great lamb to Abraham. Jewish says Muhammad stole it from the jewish, and christians says Muhammad stole it from the christianity, and everyone says he stole it from him, Say it's a message sent to you by your God, so for you to believe or for you to disbelieve. Muhammad can't even read or write, how would he come up with the Quran, and if people still have doubt then u must know that God words collected in a book called Quran, and Muhammad words collected in a book called Hadith, if you compare the two of them you will see alot of differences.

Answer 5

In Islam we must respect the religion of the Jews for they are believers of God. Islam has many similarities with the Bible and Torah and other holy books. We believe there is ONE GOD.

So, I will make this as simple as possible

We believe in One God. If that God had prophets writing different books then those books most likely have similarities.


<3 Lemon.

Answer 6

My donkey says:

Much that Muhammad taught was borrowed from other sources. Their attack on Christian countries was foretold in the Bible, which explains where they are taking us to. And it's not good. See http://abiblecode.tripod.com/islam.htm

Balaam

Answer 7

Actually, they originated in the Persian stories of the hero Rostam...

Answer 8

There is no story of Jinns,Jinns are the demons.

Answer 9

what jewish fable. i do not care. the quran was written by God and i beleive everything in it. my god is the same god in every religion, the jewish god is my god. we just beleive in him differently.

Answer 10

Yea but they are in denial.