For those who don't believe Global Warming is caused by Human...please come in...?

Question

Hello 'non-believers': I personally do believe that human is the main cause of GW, but I also recognize the arguments that you guys have- natural cycles, massive green house gases made by nature...etc I think you guys have some good points and I do not have good statements to prove you wrong.

But. consider this, what they ask you to do, are something like:
1. Ride your bike if you can
2. Use public transportation if possible
3. Drive a smaller car if possible, instead of a SUV
4. Plant more trees
5. Use a energy saving light bulbs
6. Turn off the appliances that you don't use
7. Insulate your house better to save energy to heat it up

I mean, those things are really easy to do, and they're all beneficial to us. No matter what and who creates global warming, why can't we just do it? If one day I find that they're all BS, ok, what will I lose? I am benefited by doing them. But, WHAT IF THEY WERE RIGHT about human creating GW? It may be already too late by then.

Answer 1

I already do those things and I DON'T believe that man is causing global warming. I've been trying to do these things for decades.

Do you think that the best incentive is to exaggerate or lie in order to bring about a positive outcome? What would happen tomorrow if every scientist and politician told you that we are 100% positive that the Earth is cooling now, and that we will be descending into an ice age in the next 200 years? Would you stop doing all the things that you are doing for the environment, now?

Would you say that the best way for a parent to make their child do something is to scare the begeezus out of them?

Most people agree that removing Saddam Hussain from power was a good thing. But most people who are angry about the war are upset because they feel that they were misled about the war - they are still happy that Hussain is gone.

Do you think that people will react well if they find out they have been misled? They may still know in their hearts that they should be good to the environment, but they may not be as dedicated in taking actions to help it. They may be less likely to help when the next eco-"disaster" is announced.

Honesty. Flexibility. Losing the holier-than-thou attitude. Quit telling the kids they are going to die soon unless...

They say you catch more flies with honey than with vinegar...

Answer 2

There are two major and two minor errors in your statement and question and one of the major errors is critical.

First, it is so easy to cast doubt on human caused global warming that *anyone* can understand the weakness of the argument by looking at the following scientific data (but I doubt that those already convinced will be able to change their pseudo-religious beliefs).

One of the best examples is based on the Vostok ice core records, as follows:

*look at the graph of temperature and CO2 (ignore dust) in the first Wiki reference (ref1)
*notice the periodic increases in temperature and CO2 over the last 400,000 years
*ask where the SUVs and coal-fired plants were in the previous *four* global warming events

Another good example based on the Vostok data is to ask *why* CO2 concentrations lag behind the temperature increases by 800 years?? (ref2)
(One generally accepted answer is that *after* the oceans heat up they release dissolved CO2).

A final example is to ask why are the other planets in our solar system all warming at the same time (ref3)?

The second major error is to state that “…what they ask you to do, are (sic) something like:” and then you list a bunch of rather trivial standard ecologically sound actions.

This is a *critical* error because the eco-zealots want *major* changes in your life that would adversely affect all national economies.

Partial proof comes from the performance of countries that signed on to the Kyoto Treaty - in short; they are all missing their goals and discovering that it costs too much to implement (ref4).

GW is a way for global socialists to try to control the US economy instead of reforming their own high-tax economies. This crusade against capitalism is one of the main reasons Patrick Moore, a co-founder of Greenpeace, quit the organization (ref4).

One minor error is for you to believe in global warming but say that “…I think you guys have some good points and I do not have good statements to prove you wrong.” If you can’t prove it wrong, then don’t believe it.

The second minor error is to buy into the “…why can't we just do it?” argument. Just because we can do something, even economically feasible, doesn’t mean we should.

Answer 3

What about,
1. Stop the NFS from restricting camping.
2. Work less and hang out more.
3. Share stuff
4. Stop buying stuff
5. Fall in love with nature
6. Take long walks
7. Join a gang.
8. Steal from the rich and give to the poor.
9. Tell some one you dislike to get lost.
10. Tell someone global warming is a scam.

Answer 4

You have some good points dude, but you're broadcasting them in a wrong country. The world recognizes US people to be the least concerned people in the world about GW. In here everyone just cares about themselves. And if you bring out any new theory to conflict their interest of comfort, you will be humiliated and insulted. Don't forget we are the country that contributes the largest CO2 emissions.

But one day when the problem hits them hard, they'll wake up. (Ford is a good example, see how they're forced to change their car making business)

Go post your comments on other countries yahoo sites (UK, Singapore, HK, Spain, Japan, Finland..whatever) and most people will agree with you there. Good luck.

Answer 5

what if everyone did what you say? we stop all our cars, trucks, industry, and coal plants.... We discover that didnt help, the sun's plasma energy passes straight through the atmosphere and much less of it converts (difuses) into light energy, and much more of it converts into radiant energy when it hits the ground or water-- at the same time all the plants keep on making oxygen-- the temprature goes up 5,6,l0 degrees in a week and we have 10, 12 % increace in O2 concentration... You step out onto your deck to toke a dooby, strike the match and discover that you have turned the entire earth into a tender box-- the doobie burns fast as a cherry bomb and the embers hit your clothes your deck the grass your flesh... As you die screaming with your flesh melting you realize it was not what you thought... It is not what you think and you are being manipulated by a religious movement..

Answer 6

question # 8. How do scientist understand that human beings arent protecting the temperature cooler? question # 9. what's the baseline length for climate transformations? question # 10. how briskly could the earth be warming without human beings in contact? in fact, NOONE is familiar with..there isnt a single scientist which could supply a definitive answer. Any scientist that pronounces to renowned is purely proving that they are preaching for the environmentalists and as a result can in easy terms be biased.

Answer 7

The main cause? More than the sun? Interesting.

Let me let you in on a little secret: global warming isn't about saving the Earf from turning into a burning ball of fire. It's about more government control.

All those things you mention. They're asking now. But soon, if Pelosi gets her way, they'll be passing laws. Laws that will make our lives harder and more expensive. They already have. Gasoline blends, additives, recycling, blah, blah, blah. And taxes. Never forget taxes.

All without proof? Insane. It's religion for the Left. Feel free to practice your religion, but don't shove it down my throat.

Answer 8

I do almost all of those things because they are good investments. And I do love nature and consider myself a conservationist. On top of that, I actually have an open mind on the Global Warming debate. But the bottom line for me is that I haven't heard a good enough arguement from the "Human Cause" camp. Good, but not quite as good as the "Natural Cause" camp.

Answer 9

The person at the local mental hospital says that if everyone goes naaked on June 12 2007 and we take 10 billion USD and toss it to the bottom of the Pacific Ocean the world will not end on Jun 13 2007
Even if you do not believe this what harm can there be in doing the things he suggests just in case?

Answer 10

What if the earth is warming because we have cleaned up and stopped the dirtiest pollution. As is coal and the heavy sulfur that was made back in the 70s and before.

I was a child in the 70s and we have done this before