What kind of nincompoops do some of you think we are? Telling people that priests take away Bibles?

Question

and won't let people read them. Geesh! What a load!! Do you know what calumny is? It is a sin. You had best clean up your act.

Sorry Father K. (kiss, kiss)

You sir do lie

Answer 1

yeah i noticed that comment to, as absurd as it is i am not surprised by anything they come up with anymore. even if it was true when they go to mass the whole service is from scripture,word for word and liturgical calender year a b and c gives maybe the best form of scripture reading available.

peace be with you.

Answer 2

Actually Catholics and Protestants both burned bibles because of differences in translations that were horribly off. As for priests taking bibles away, I've never heard of that. I've heard of bibles being chained to a table or podium. Nothing wrong with that considering bibles back then took a really long time to write (they were all hand written), and because they were usually very beautifully crafted and illustrated, they were very expensive. So expensive that it would have cost an average of 2 years salary. Most people back then didn't sell all their possessions and house, and so usually only the rich had a bible. The bible was chained just like a phone book is chained to a phone booth. It is big and helpful, and expensive. If it is chained no one would steal it and it would be available to everyone...everyone that could read that is. Since many people back then didn't know how to read, the Church created the images and statues of different scenes in the bible, or of saints. It was the poor uneducated person's version of the bible.

Sorry for the tangent. Hope this clarified it for some.

Answer 3

Pastor Billy says: oh lovely Midge, you've just discovered the vast amount of insecurity many non-catholics consciously hold to. To continue to believe in century old propaganda of bible restriction makes the insecurity over where the real Church can be found less overwhelming. It's my opinion the Church as the salt and light is very alive in the subconscious of those who slander us and lie about us and speak all kinds of evil (sound familar).

Fact 1, heretical text was restricted including Tyndale bibles as Tyndale was no bible scholar and it was his additions of bible commentary that got him into trouble as well as his disobedience.

Fact 2 even after leaving the Christian Church Martin Luther chained his bibles up in the Wittenburg Library to prevent theft.

Fact 3 only the very rich could afford bibles during the time period complained about to suggest everyone had one or should have had one with dog ears is just a fantasy from those today which don't actually show the holy scripture any greater amount of reverence.

addition: suzy doesn't know her Mexican history well. During the time period she mentions the Catholic Church in Mexico was the persecuted not the the persecutor. The secular Communist government of the time was waging war against the Church and it was Catholics who were the persecuted. If anyone was taking away bibles it was the Mexican government not the Catholic Church.

Answer 4

Dear Friend ONE: William Tyndale was not burned at the stake. He suffered martyrdom on Tyburn Tree. By Church of England under King Henry VIII. Not by the Catholic Church silly. He opposed the king's desire for divorce. And refused to convert to the king's own brand of faith.

Tyndale supported Anne Bolyn. She supported his efforts at translating the bible. Both were killed.

He was murdered for treason. Not for translating the bible. His last words were: "Lord, open the king of England's eyes."

Execution on the Tyburn Tree meant one was hung until unconscious, taken down and strapped to a table where was one cut open and had one's insides taken out. While one still lived. Screaming.

Then one's head, arms and legs were cut off.

Sometimes the parts were boiled then put up around the city. Sometimes one's parts were burned. Tyndale's were burned. Hence the long standing myth that he was burned at the stake.

Well, Midge, we even have to lay the blame for some of this business on Catholics. To this day you will hear Catholics use "i'm catholic" as an excuse for not reading the bible.

Sadly, just like all the misinterpretations of Vatican II, not reading the bible is a gross misinterpretation.

Vulgate means common. The Latin Vulgate bible was the "common man's" bible. However, centuries ago, most people couldn't even read. So they only heard scripture in church.

Then along came Martin Luther. He leveled many true accusations against the church. But also many false ones. Such as stating that the church did not allow people to read the bible. Bibles were expensive. People were poor.

He said people had the right to read and interpret the bible on their own. He created his own bible, which he saw free to edit according to his will. Rather than the will of God.

This is when the splintering of Christianity began. Luther recanted on his death bed saying "Now every milk maid who can read will found her own religion." Course, he said it in German so I probably shouldn't put that in quotes.

The church came down hard. Telling followers that they should read the bible but not attempt to interpret its meaning. After all, the common man is not a bible scholar.

About 60 or so years later, the pope had an english translation of the bible created. The Douay Rheims which most people don't realize predates the King James. So many think King James was the first english bible. Sad. They do not do justice to the martyrdom of the above mentioned William Tyndale. To this day, Tyndale still makes very good bibles.

So too, a prayer to the Holy Spirit was included with each bible. Even the oldest copies remaining of the Douay Rheims contain a papal indulgence for reading scripture just half an hour a day.

Yet the myth continues.

This business with Luther dates back to the 1500's. We just need to keep plugging along until the myth and rumor will end.

Answer 5

Because most people really don't understand religious history or the Catholic faith. they only know what they read on antiCatholic websites and their pastors. They believe misconceptions and do not go to the source.

It is said that not 100 people in the world hate the Catholic faith but millions hate the misconceptions they have of the Catholic faith.

Edit: Actually 1elmos Tyndale was burned at the stake by the cohorts of Henery VIII who at the time was in battle with the Catholic Church over his divorce. Tyndale sided with the Catholic Church to the outrage of Henery VIII. Hence why Tyndale's last words were "Lord open the eyes of the king of England."

So in answer to your questions it was one of the reformer churches responsible.

Answer 6

Someone with an IQ of 17 and has never been to college. Except for that one time 3 years ago when they enrolled for a cpr class at community college.

Answer 7

You had better read John Calvins biography- Not only did they take away Bibles from anyone other than a Catholic church official but anyone possessing a bible was declared a heretic and killed, usually by burning. This is how the Reformation started. William Farel, John Calvin, Erasmus, Martin Luther and many others were hunted by the Catholic church and many thousands were not as fortunate and were martryed for owning a bible and not paying their pennance for the priests for the remission of their sins. I take exception to your statement. You better read your church history. Do a study of the Reformation if you care to know the truth. I didn't defame you but the truth needs to be told reguardless of who it offends.

Answer 8

i think you saw that in my question!!! the audacity of it all! the person responded that "oh and latin america the priests take away the bible!!!" it is not true because i have plenty, and when i say plenty i mean lots nad lots, of latin american friends, and 85% of them are Roman Catholics, and that does now happen!! people wnt to use anything i swear anything to bash us Catholics! isnt it sad???

Sword/Lord when does not revealing your email be a sin? could YOU point that out since you know the Bible so well? and where is she swearing??? i dont see it. also calling someone a liar is not a sin!

but that's nothing how about others who think that we read the bible and put it down, like we dont follow it! i'm like why do you tihnk i read it? as a romance novel!!! no! we read it to follow it!!! i have no clue how the hell these people think of us?? i am sure that some are suprised that we even know how to read!!!

Answer 9

Sword of the Lord is an arrogant prick but I have never caught him outright lying. I would be inclined to check for links that might back him up or contradict him. I repeat, even though I am not a fan of his, that I have not known him to lie.

If Sword of the Lord says he has known this to happen I would suspect that it might be true.
I would still want something supporting it though.

Answer 10

Of course the Catholic Church once rounded up tons of Bibles and burned them....they were faulty translations! In fact, the King James Version of the Bible of 1611 contained over 1,000 errors. No-one complains about that! Tyndale was indeed burned at the stake....his version was not authorized by the English Protestant church!!!! Don't be so quick to blame Catholics for everything!