Will Christians go through the great Tribulation?

Question

i believe post rapture,
what do you believe?
this has been asked before iam aware,just wanted some current thoughts, and thnx for resps.
http://www.godandscience.org/doctrine/tribulation.html

thnx for answers
i wonder if anyone visited the site i posted it has some interesting references on the subject.

if those of the faith turn even there brother over to take the mark so they themselves can live, i believe we will be here doing such
why would Christ say,"those who endure to the end shall be saved."
saved from what?

that explains allot scholar_wood and thnx,but some of the stuff you said about what my beliefs are is incorrect.
you must admit i was closer than most here right?
peace and love

Answer 1

the "Rapture" is a false theory of eschatology that was developed by Protestant John Nelson Darby, and introduced to this country by Protestant Cyrus Scofield in the early 20th century. You will not find the theory posited by any father, doctor, saint, medieval, pope, council or any reliable Christian scholar for 1800 years. This should give you pause. For a thorough, biblical refutation of the rapture theory, please see my link called “Zionism.”

The Rapture theory is not only unhistorical, it is also unbiblical. You, as a Rapturist, believe that certain Christians will be secretly taken up to heaven by Christ before the millennial period based on such verses as 1 Thess. 4:17. You also interpret the 1,000 year period of the Apocalypse literally, even though the Apocalypse is written in symbolic language. You then believe that Christ will reign with the Jews for this 1,000-year period before the consummation of the world. Thus, you believe that the Rapture occurs at least 1,000 years before the end of the world.

The Scriptures, however, say that the rapture occurs coincident with the end of the world, not a millennium before the end of the world. Turning to the “rapture” passage in 1 Thessalonians, Paul says: “For this we declare to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, shall not precede those who have fallen asleep” (v.15). In other words, those Christians living at the time of the “rapture” are not taken first.

Instead, “the dead in Christ will rise first; then we who are alive, who are left, shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air” (vv.16-17). These passages clearly teach that the resurrection of the dead precedes the rapture. Therefore, to know when the rapture occurs, we must first know when the resurrection of the dead occurs.

Scripture teaches that the resurrection of the dead occurs on the “last day” of the world (John 6:39, 40, 44, 54; 11:24; 12:48). Because the resurrection of the dead occurs on the “last day” of the world, and the rapture follows the resurrection, this means that the rapture also occurs on the “last day” (there can be no day after the “last day”). Since the rapture occurs on the “last day,” it cannot occur on any other day (that is, there is no “pre-millennial” rapture).

Therefore, the “rapture” occurs on the “last day” (John 6), and immediately follows the resurrection of the dead (1 Thess. 4:16-17). This necessarily means that the righteous and the unrighteous will be raised at the same time, because there is no day that can follow the “last day” where the unrighteous could be raised.

Scripture, of course, confirms this conclusion. In John 5:28-29, the Lord Jesus says:

“Do not marvel at this; for the hour is coming when all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come forth, those who have done good, to the resurrection of life, and those who have done evil, to the resurrection of judgment.”

Jesus says that the resurrection will occur at “the hour” (v.28). This is the same as saying the resurrection will occur on the “last day” because an hour is part of one day, and that is the “last day” per John 6, 11 and 12. Jesus also says that “all who are in the tombs will hear his voice” (v.28). This follows Paul’s teaching on the resurrection/rapture event when he says that the Lord will descend from heaven with “a cry of command,” and the “dead in Christ will rise first” (1 Thess. 4:16).

Finally, Jesus is clear that at this “hour” both those who have done good and those who have done evil will rise at the same time. The good will be raised to life, and the evil will be raised to judgment. There is simply no exegetical basis for inserting a millennial period between the resurrection of the just and the resurrection of the unjust. Jesus says that the resurrection happens at “the hour,” when “all who are in the tombs will hear his voice and come forth.” Thus, Scripture teaches that the rapture of the living occurs coincident with the resurrection of all of the dead, both the good and the evil, at the same time, on the last day of the world.

The Protestant scheme of a rapture preceding the millennium and final coming requires “three” comings of Christ. First, Christ came at the Incarnation. Second, Christ would come at the “rapture.” Third, Christ will come at the end of the world.

This scheme is absolutely false and contradicts the perennial teachings of the Church. It is also refuted by Sacred Scripture. For example, Paul says in his letter to the Hebrews:

“And just as it is appointed for men to die once, and after that comes judgment, so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him” (Heb. 9:27-28).

Paul says that Christ will “appear a second time.” This second appearance of Christ is nothing short of His second and final appearance at the end of the world, when He will judge the living and the dead. Paul draws a parallel between our death and Christ’s death, and our judgment and Christ’s second appearance. Following the literary parallel, Christ’s second appearance is the very moment of our “judgment,” for Christ is the “lawgiver and judge” (James 4:2; 5:9).

Because this Second Coming of Christ refers to the end of the world, Christ will no longer “deal with sin” because He will have already rendered His judgments upon the wicked. In other words, at Christ’s second and final coming, the fate of all humanity will be sealed. For those who have done evil, it will be too late to repent.

Regarding being “born again,” every early Church Father interpreted John 3:5 to be a reference to baptism. Once again, your opinions contradict the constant Christian Tradition. I implore you to come home to the faith into which you were “born again” in baptism. Time is short.

Answer 2

No. If the Church is going to have to go through the Tribulation, what's the point of the FIRST Rapture? God will return a SECOND time at the end of the Tribulation to establish the Millennial Kingdom, so why would he need TWO Raptures/appearances if he intended to leave the Church behind to go through the Tribulation? Besides, when He comes back at the end of the Tribulation, the Scripture says that He will return with a "great cloud of witnesses." Who are these witnesses? It couldn't be angels, for they didn't have to be witnesses for Christ! They were already created in the angelic realm and knew who He is! It couldn't be Tribulation saints, for they are converted WHILE STILL ON EARTH! Therefore, it could only be the CHURCH saints He raptured BEFORE the Tribulation! You can't RETURN with something that you didn't TAKE AWAY in the first place! Besides, it's not His will that any should perish (suffer during the Tribulation in this case), so why leave them behind in a situation that they would surely perish in without having the ability to have economic stability without the Mark of the Beast?

Answer 3

i do no longer think of that we are going to pass for the duration of the super tribulation. there'll be Christians in the tribulation yet no longer us, the Christians enduring it will be people who're saved after the rapture. a million Thessalonians 4:sixteen-17 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a noisy command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the lifeless in Christ will upward push first. After that, we who're nevertheless alive and are left would be caught up at the same time with them in the clouds to fulfill the Lord in the air. And so we are able to be with the Lord continuously

Answer 4

I believe that the Bible teaches of a rapture BEFORE the Tribulation.

Think about this: Why would God send his people that have been faithful to him through something as awful as the Tribulation?

The answer is he won't. Before that reign of terror comes on this earth, God will call his people away to be with him.

When God flooded the earth, did he leave Noah and his family on it? No, in fact he called them in 7 days before it even began to rain.

The tribulation period is for all of those that have rejected Christ as their Savior and the Son of God. Those that have been here faithfully waiting on his return will not go through it.

Answer 5

The rapture will happen before the tribulation. The only Christians who will experience the tribulation are those who are saved after the rapture.

Answer 6

Yes, some will. There is some big movement that says we do not deserve punishment (the rapture) but, I tell you Christ died for everyone so everyone that dies deserves it and how can we strive to be above our Master? He was crowned with thorns because he is the King of suffering. How can we belittle him so much by thinking we do not deserve any suffering?

Answer 7

Yes,at least most of it.I'm not a dispensationalist pop-prophecy believer.I follow God's Word.It is clear we will be here when the man of sin is revealed.The Antichrist wages war against Christians,not Jews or pagans.Christians are God's "chosen people",not Jews.And the rise of the Antichrist is very near.One world government is less than a decade away.

Answer 8

No. I am pretty much pre-trib. I think the next thing will be the return of Christ for the church. There are lots of verses that point to the coming of Christ and the importance of being ready for his coming.

Answer 9

No way. God has not appointed us unto wrath, but unto salvation. It's not biblical.

But I don't know why you ask. Sounds like you're pretty much set in your way of thinking. If you want to go through the tribulation, more power to you. I and millions of other Christians will be gone!

Answer 10

NO... I can not find any justification, in any reading I have done, that indicates a post-tirb Rapture... I take my position, on absolute pre-trib, based on what God gave to me in the instant of my Salvation. And I believe that what I have read in Scripture confirms my understanding of What God gave me.