He said something I found very intresting. All these Christians piss and moan about abortion and how as soon as the egg is fertilized by the sperm, the baby is technically alive. Well this minister I talked to said that was wrong. He showed me some quote in the Bible that said that the baby is not technically alive untill the mother can feel it inside her. Let me ask you something all you fundamentalist Christians. Is the Bible wrong and you are right???
2007-06-06 06:09:36 · 7 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I was talking to a baptist minister once and he told me that a serial killer would go to heaven if he was saved first before he started killing.
soooo. to set the record straight. the bible is right and even though he is a baptist minister he is still only a man, and believe it or not, men can be wrong sometimes - even baptist ministers!!
2007-06-06 06:17:30 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 0⤋
I would like to know where the Bible says that.
Besides, it isn't just "fundamentalist Christians" who believe that life begins at conception. I believed that as an atheist, then when I was Wiccan.
The REASON I believe that is because by the time a woman knows she is pregnant, the baby already has a heartbeat and brainwaves.
I don't know about anyone else's definition of "alive," but to me, if something has a heartbeat and brainwaves, it is ALIVE.
2007-06-06 06:20:18 · answer #2 · answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Leviticus 27 and Numbers 3 say a baby is not to be counted until it is a month old.
Exodus 21:22 says that a fetus is worth some cash. If it was considered as a separate life, then the penalty for killing a fetus would be stoning, not a fine.
So it would appear that God has no problem with abortion, even late term abortion.
2007-06-06 06:28:35 · answer #3 · answered by Simon T 7 · 0⤊ 1⤋
The Baptist minister does not have a clear understanding of the scriptures. The Bible does not mention anything about life beginning when you can "feel" the baby.
Genesis 1:27 points out that God made man in His image and He placed the spirit of man in him at conception, not at birth. Therefore, to take that life deliberately is murder. How do we know life begins at conception? The Bible tells us so. There is a Greek word, “brephos,” which is found eight times in the New Testament. Thayer's Greek Lexicon says it refers to “an unborn child, embryo, fetus, a newborn child, an infant, a baby.” It refers to the child in the womb, as well as to the child outside the womb. There is no distinction.
In Luke 1:15, John was said to be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother's womb. "And it happened, when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, that the babe leaped in her womb; and Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit”(Luke 1:41). Here was the meeting of Mary and Elisabeth. The angel had appeared to Mary and told her that she would conceive, "And behold, you will conceive in your womb and bring forth a Son, and shall call His name Jesus” (Luke 1:31). Then in verses 36 and 37 we read: "Now indeed, Elizabeth your relative has also conceived a son in her old age; and this is now the sixth month for her who was called barren. For with God nothing will be impossible." Then verses 39 and 40: "Now Mary arose in those days and went into the hill country with haste, to a city of Judah, and entered the house of Zacharias and greeted Elizabeth." These are the verses leading up to the verse 41 previously quoted which says that the babe “leaped in her womb.” The babe (the “brephos”) leaped in her womb! That is a significant statement. Yes, life begins at conception and not at birth.
Is the unborn child alive or dead? There is no question about the fact that he is alive. Is he animal or human? He is human. Is he endowed with a spirit from God? Yes, the unborn child possesses an eternal, immortal spirit. “Let us make man in our image,” the Bible says. Man is made in the spiritual image of God, with an immortal spirit. That spirit certainly is within that child before he is born.
An Old Testament passage which reinforces the fact that abortion is a form of murder is Exodus 21:22-25. This is legislation pertaining to a situation in which an unborn child might be harmed. "If men fight, and hurt a woman with child, so that she gives birth prematurely, yet no harm follows, he shall surely be punished accordingly as the woman's husband imposes on him; and he shall pay as the judges determine. But if any harm follows, then you shall give ‘life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.’”
"If she gives birth prematurely," when this struggle occurs, “and no harm follows,” means the woman had a miscarriage, but there was no loss of life. In that case, the one causing the miscarriage paid a fine according to what the husband determined. But the text says, "if any harm follows,” meaning the mother or child died, then, it was "life for life.” The one who caused the death of the mother or the unborn child paid with his life. How could there be a clearer passage revealing how God views the unborn child? He is a child created in the image of God, while yet in the womb. To take that life by abortion in order to end an unwanted pregnancy is murder! Murder is sin!
You may want to post the "quote" in the Bible that he was referring to.
2007-06-06 06:15:49 · answer #4 · answered by TG 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
The Baptist Minister was wrong. Jesus was alive in Mary's womb from the very moment of conseption as are all of us. Quit looking for ways to rationalize murder.
2007-06-06 06:27:56 · answer #5 · answered by Midge 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
The bible is right and that minister is completely wrong...
Life BEGINS at CONCEPTION
No ifs, ands, or buts......
And by the way....I am a Baptist minister as well.
2007-06-06 06:13:07 · answer #6 · answered by primoa1970 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Nice try but they won't listen to you here....
2007-06-06 06:14:45 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋