So God kills my son to punish me, and then throws my son into the Lake of Fire for not being Christian?

Question

According to Fish (who claims to have "pastored 5 churches ... served as a missionary ... presently in Bible college", has 965 best answers and who believes himself to be "right in the middle of God's will"), God killed my five-year-old autistic son to punish me for not being Christian and for challenging so many "Christians" about their hypocrisy.

And according to the Catholic Church, there is not one verse in the bible that supports a belief that non-christian children go to heaven.

So am I to believe that god killed my autistic five-year-old son to punish me for not being a Christian, and then God threw my five-year-old autistic son into the Lake of Fire because he's not Christian either?

This is your "God of Love"?

Would a god who drowned all the babies in the world (Genesis 6, 7 and Matthew 24:37-39) think twice about such a deed?

Romans 1 says no such thing. I just read it (again).

Yes you did, Fish.

It is a shame you cannot confess and ask for forgiveness.

Answer 1

I have made no such claims. Your son was not punished for your sin. You, however will have to answer for your constant contempt of God which you had prior to your son's death. Don't use him for an excuse.

Answer 2

Correction. Your autistic five year son was not thrown into the lake of fire. God do not punish anyone for not being a christian. Please...... get it straight. You don't become a christian by any other way except by faith. You are full of anger. Calm down. You don't have to accept what the pastor says.Be at peace. God the almighty loves you weather you are a christian or not. HE CANNOT HATE. I'm so sorry to hear and read this . I can understand what you are going through for I' m also at this type situation [though not the same] Time, I hope will heal your wound. Just don't make any decision now. In my time of trouble I too curse god and threw his holy book. Not once but twice. Today I'm so much at peace with god and begin to understand his wisdom. If you have known me yesterday you would have run away as far as you can from me . Today I want to be a blessing to everyone. I wish you Peace.

Answer 3

Now we know the source of your bitterness. I'm sorry for the loss of your son. I lost my mom when I was 15. She was a single parent. Fish has probably misinterpreted your feelings, and is being reactionary. Forgive him, and all of us for not understanding.

As a Christian, I do not believe you lost your son because God was mad at you, and wanted to punish you. Other people lose their children, too. Christians included. None of us are exempt, unfortunately. And life can be brutal, and then life ends. Sometimes it ends earlier than we expect it to. It is a stunning and numbing experience when it hits close to home. Many times you try to find the meaning of what has happened, and cannot. I understand exactly how you feel, and will not judge you for your feelings toward God and Christianity in general. I felt the same way for a long time. But through grief and loss, hardship and suffering, or anything else life can throw at us, I discovered that God still loves us all. After some time, I hope you will discover that, too.

Answer 4

There is not one verse in the Bible that supports the idea of anyone--saved or unsaved--going to heaven. In fact, the Bible tells us that NO MAN has ascended to heaven, except Jesus Christ. Understand that the kingdom of God will be established here on Earth. Jesus will rule as the King of kings here--on Earth.

You can believe what you choose to believe, but God will deal with non-believers at the resurrection. Why would he punish you now, when you still have an opportunity for salvation? Neither is it possible that your son was thrown in a Lake of Fire, since the lake of fire refers to the 2nd resurrection, which has not yet taken place.

God destroyed a world that was consumed with wickedness in Noah's day. You therefore cannot judge his purpose. It is understandable that you bear some bitterness about your son's passing, particularly when you are being deceived by like-minded individuals who only seek to confuse you. Why does this Fish person claim to be right in the middle of God's will? Exactly where would "right in the middle" be? Makes no sense. Instead of following foolish men and catholic doctrine that is contrary to God, consider following Christ.

Answer 5

I am indeed sorry for your loss. The grief & anger you're feeling are perfectly normal. I am a Christian & I feel it is irresponsible for anyone to tell you that God killed your son to punish you, or that your son is in Hell. The Bible does not teach that God kills children to punish parents. My personal belief is that your son is in Heaven since he was only five years old & had not reached the age of accountability. I know this is probably the last thing you want to do right now, but go to God with your grief & anger--He won't destroy you or turn you away. I know from personal experience that He is indeed a 'God of Love'. Blessings.

Answer 6

Some people can be so insensitive. May I apologize for the words of all who have been so callous toward you and your son, and especially for those who have misrepresented Christianity and the Lord.

Losing a child is always a tragedy. The fact that he was autistic must have been very difficult, but neither that nor his death have ANYTHING to do with God punishing you. God loves you and He loves your son, who certainly IS now in heaven.

In Jewish law and tradition, a boy child automatically becomes a Bar Mitzvah at age 13. While he can have the official ceremony at any time in his life, tradition dictates that he do so at age 13, when it becomes his duty to observe the commandments as an adult under Jewish law. He is not considered to be innocent anymore, and he is responsible for his or her own actions. The parents of the Bar Mitzvah no longer have to carry the burden of their child's sins. He is eligible to read from the Torah, and to participate in a Minyan. I think this is the basis for the idea that around the age of 12 or 13 a child reaches the "age of accountability". I don't know of any actual chapter and verse that speaks to this, but there may be one somewhere in the Old Testament Law.

Since your son had not reached that traditional "age of accountability", I believe he would still be considered innocent and sinless.

Read 2 Samuel 12:15-23.

After Nathan had gone home, the LORD struck the child that Uriah's wife had borne to David, and he became ill. David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and went into his house and spent the nights lying on the ground. The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.

On the seventh day the child died. David's servants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they thought, "While the child was still living, we spoke to David but he would not listen to us. How can we tell him the child is dead? He may do something desperate."

David noticed that his servants were whispering among themselves and he realized the child was dead. "Is the child dead?" he asked. "Yes," they replied, "he is dead."

Then David got up from the ground. After he had washed, put on lotions and changed his clothes, he went into the house of the LORD and worshiped. Then he went to his own house, and at his request they served him food, and he ate.

His servants asked him, "Why are you acting this way? While the child was alive, you fasted and wept, but now that the child is dead, you get up and eat!" He answered, "While the child was still alive, I fasted and wept. I thought, 'Who knows? The LORD may be gracious to me and let the child live.'

But now that he is dead, why should I fast? Can I bring him back again? I will go to him, but he will not return to me."

When we read David's last line, we realize that he saw the bigger picture -- that this life was only a minute part of eternity, and he believed that after he himself died, he would see his innocent child again in heaven.

I think it's important to realize too, that from God's viewpoint, death is not necessarily a bad thing. All of us here on earth have to deal with emotional pain, physical pain, and mental anguish, but God's word tells us that in heaven there is no pain, and our troubles are all over. When you think about it that way, maybe you will be able to look at your situation differently. Your son has been promoted to a place of unlimited love and kindness, where he is unconditionally accepted into the family of God, and will never know fear or sorrow or pain.

One of the things I've noticed about questioning God's ways is that it just leads to more questions! And frankly, He is a lot smarter than we are, so we can't necessarily understand why He does some of the things He does.

Suppose the old world that was destroyed by the flood was infected with a terrible disease, and God released those children from their suffering? That's not factual, but just my feeble attempt to illustrate how there must be circumstances we know nothing about.

All I know is, if God is true, it is worth it to challenge Him to reveal Himself. If He's not, what's the diff? The Bible teaches that once you seek Him, you will find Him. And when you find Him, you will have the opportunity to make a choice --to love and serve Him, or not. If you choose YES, you receive the gift of eternal life, and the Holy Spirit will teach you more about His ways.

Again, please accept my apology for so many thoughtless, insensitive comments. Let us focus instead on positive thoughts.

May the Lord comfort your heart and give you His peace that is beyond understanding.

Phil. 4:7 And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus.

Answer 7

You are a hate-filled man.
" For every living soul belongs to me, the father as well as the son" (says the Lord)
Ezekiel 18:4
An evil king in the Old Testament once had a son fall sick. He sent to the prophet of God to see if his son would recover.
The word was the child would die, the reason given was that "because in him something good was found toward the Lord God of Israel"
(I Kings 14:13)
The rest of that king's household was utterly wiped out by the king who succeeded him.

If your five year old son died, it is well with him and God has received him; but if this is your heart attitude against God, you will never see your son again, because where he is, you will not be able to go with such hatred in your heart.

Answer 8

Please know that 1 self proclaimed expert on Christianity, doesn't speak for all Christians.

God does not kill anyone. Your reference to the flood as God killing babies, is alittle off the mark. God condemned to death all those that didn't believe his prophet and get their bodies on the method of being saved: the ark. IF those babies parents had of obeyed God through Noah, the family would have been saved. Blame the parent not GOD. He made the way for salvation but people rejected it because of their wickedness.

Same as today, God has made the way to salvation and many people are too stubborn to accept that way. If you are starving and I cook you a nice meal and you walk away from it and starve to death, can you blame ME?? Of course not, blame yourself for not availing yourself of a way out of your starvation.

Death is a result of the Adamic sin, which we inherited throughout the generations. We cannot blame God. We can praise God for offering a way that we can be saved.

I am so sorry for your families' loss.

Although I don't have scripture in hand or mind to actually support it, I do believe that God is a just God and your son is in good hands with God's judgement. I personally don't believe he is in hell right now.
I encourage you to lift your eyes heavenward and seek God so that you may be reunited with your son.

God Bless and Keep you.

Answer 9

I don't know where he got that information. But God doesn't "kill" anyone. Your child may have died, been taken from you, but not for any kind of punishment. Plus, if your child was autistic and only 5 years old, then he could not have understood the concept of Jesus being our Saviour, let alone make any kind of a decision about that. I am sure your son is sitting with Jesus right now, asking him to watch over you and is not longer autistic.

Answer 10

Orion, why are you allowing one person's opinion to further cause you pain? Haven't you suffered enough without fixating on someone else's mistaken concepts of what God does and doesn't do?

Your son is in Heaven with God -- period, end of subject. He is a precious child, and he's probably sitting on Jesus' lap, listening to Him tell him how much he's loved. Your son is surrounded by the beauty and glories of Heaven, where nothing is ever going hurt him or make him feel sad or scared again.

If you continue your bitter crusade against God and Fish, you're going to end up harming yourself even more than you've already been. For the sake of your own mental and emotional recovery, please let go of this fixation.

Answer 11

Woah I don't know those other people but Romans CHapter 1 clearly says that people who do not now the Lord Will be judged on what they do with what they do know.

Also, the Catholic Church did not say that non-Christians do not have any chance to go to heaven.

Whoever or wherever you got this information misrepresents God and the RC church.

Also, God does not punish your child for your sins.

Jesus would have you know that He holds your son in His loving arms now. And that He would love to embrace you also, here on this earth.