This is yet another scripture that shows that Jesus cannot be God.
Almighty God doesn't answer to anyone else. He is the highest. There is no one higher.
Psalm 83:18
You won't get a clear understandable explanation of this scripture from a Trinitarian point of view because the Trinity teaching is inexplicable. To say that God came down in human form to die for us is undermining what Jesus actually did for us. He died an agonizing death on a torture stake for us.
Also, if he did transform his form & became human & came down to earth to die for us, then who raised him up when he died?
The Trinity is not in the scriptures, doesn't make sense, and is borrowed from paganism.
God is displeased with it & will show that displeasure very soon
2007-06-04 21:12:58
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answered by New ♥ System ♥ Lady 4
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Because he isnt the Almighty God, he is the son of God. Many people who believe he is God, or the Father doesnt read the whole bible. They only read the portions that have him, the father & the holy spirit in the same verse...If they read the whole bible instead of believing what they are told or taught, w/out viewing for themselves, they would know that Jesus is the son of God, his first creation....
1John 4:1--beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they originate with God, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.
2007-06-05 12:42:49
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answer #2
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answered by Redd 3
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Your question is an interesting one & I looked at the scripture.
Recently, I did some research into the origins of the Trinity doctrine as I have trouble in getting my head around it basically. I found a link that show the origins of the Trinity & it tells you there that -"the Trinity is actually of pagan, philosophical ancestry, and was engrafted onto, and accomodated to, Christian theology."
http://www.geocities.com/robert_upci/origin_of_the_trinity_by_chalfant.htm
The cite also named a book which I hope to get & read called The Two Babylons by Alexander Hyssop. It also tells you that there was no teaching of Trinity in old Testament Judaism.
When people are raised with certain beliefs (eg Trinity) and their beliefs are challenged sometimes it motivates those that believe them to behave in a retaliating way to the person that is the challenger (in this case yourself). It can bring out a kind of hostility sometimes, because instead of looking deeper into why you may be asking the question, they place wrong motives upon you.
I guess what I'm trying to say is forgive the answers that are patronizing & condescending (and sometimes downright rude) and don't take them personally as they cherish heartfelt beliefs that are difficult to let go of (even if they are wrong)
2007-06-07 19:03:53
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answer #3
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answered by Purple.Diamond 3
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The record of Jesus' words and deeds in the Gospels shows that he really was God's servant.
That same record shows also that Jesus is not Almighty God.
Belief in a Trinity makes a mockery of everything the Bible plainly says. The Trinity is no "mystery." It's just a falsehood.
2007-06-05 11:28:20
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answered by בַר אֱנָשׁ (bar_enosh) 6
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Familiarity with the Old Testament "suffering servant" prophecies would have prevented you from asking this Q in a way that belies your resistance to the divine nature of Christ.
In Isaiah 52:13 to 53:12 (for example) we read of the prophetic ministry of the Messiah - Christ. His role as servant is critical to Jewish thinking and expectations. That is why Christ's servant-hood is emphasised in the New Testament. It is to help identify him as the Messiah to the nation of Israel. It is one of his vital credentials. In Acts 4, the apostle Peter was addressing the Sanhedrin! He had just told these Jews that salvation is found in no-one else other than Jesus! He quoted the OT about Christ being the stone rejected! He quoted Psalm 2 about such Jews raging against God's Anointed One! Get the context, and get the meaning!
Your additional comments about Christ being "begotten" also betray your lack of understanding of the Greek words involved. You imagine it must mean created. It does not! It means pre-eminence, priority. If Paul wanted to say Christ was created, he would have used a different Greek word. He never used that word when speaking of Christ. That is your clue. Think about it and follow it through. Your eternal salvation depends on it!
2007-06-06 12:46:20
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answer #5
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answered by Anonymous
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God in-trusts Jesus with Devinne power, and in return Jesus does Gods will.
2007-06-05 04:37:56
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answered by Christopher 1
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I notice that in the past week you have asked about seven different questions. I wasn't going to answer any of them, because obviously they are not honestly asked. I can't figure out why you ask them.
You've already got your mind made up. (Actually thats not true, but I'll explain that later.)
What is the point of your questions? You have received dozens of excellent Christian answers. You choose to reject them before they are even given.
I put you into the same catagory that I put "Achtung Heiss". In the question of approx three weeks ago, "The Names of God", I showed how, via his own remarks, that he does not think for himself, but allows the Watchtower to do it for him.
( All interested parties can check out the question under my Profile, see his remarks, and my comments )
You sir, are doing the same thing. The Watchtower chooses to highlight and concentrate on every verse in the New Testament that focuses on the Humanity of Christ.
As if that somehow calls into question His Godhood.
While at the same time, they either ignore, mistranslate, add to, or outright fabricate non-existent Greek arguments, to all of the verses which speak to His Divinity and Equality with the Father and the Spirit.
They put forth explanations and spurious arguments that 99% of all Greek Scholars consider to be a joke.
You follow a dishonest organisation. You are told how to think, and what to think by the Watchtower. Thats why I say its true and not true at the same time of "already making up your mind". They make it up for you.
You deny that? I'll show you how.
If the Watchtower tomorrow morning was to decide that the Holy Spirit, though still not God, was in fact a person, (and not a 'force") you would follow in 'lockstep'.
And everybody knows it!
You have received dozens of Biblical Proofs that Jesus Christ is in fact God in the Flesh. You are not allowed to receive them. Because you are in fact not a free agent.
In fact, you cannot receive them. Because without being indwelt by the Holy Spirit, you cannot understand the things of God. They are foolishness to you. It is like trying to explain a rainbow to a man born blind.
God can reach any heart if it's willing. You have chosen to close yours.
You, Achtung, and a few others here on the Y/A pages, have become the modern day Pharisees.
As Jesus said to them, He also says to you, "Unless you believe that I AM you will die in your sins."
All because you will not think for yourself. And allow the "Word of Christ to dwell in you richly".
Like the Prodigal Son, you eat the food meant for swine, when a Banquet of Riches is freely available.
You feast upon 'Watchtowers and Awakes" instead of "The Bread of Life".
What Jesus said to the people of Israel concerning the false messiah that is to come, could also be applied to you.
In your case it would read:" I have come in my Fathers name, and you do not receive Me, if another (the Watchtower) comes in their own name, Them, you will receive."
You Sir, need to repent. If indeed it's still possible. Only God knows if your heart has been hardened too much.
I sincerely pray not.
....theBerean
2007-06-07 04:15:10
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answered by theBerean 5
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who was Jesus Christ praying to? you cannot pray to yourself. Jesus said he cannot do anything without the Father in heaven. Jesus always gave credit to his Father, not to himself. no one has seen Jehovah God, but they seen Jesus Christ. not even Moses seen Jehovah God. when Jesus was baptized, Jehovah came down like a dove and said this is my son the beloved. so Jesus Christ cannot be the Almighty God.
2007-06-05 08:53:32
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answered by lover of Jehovah and Jesus 7
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Jesus (pbuh) never claim that He is God or litrally son of God.
If just for argument we accept He used word son and father, then God Almighty has so many Sons, because in Bible Prophet Abraham Prophet Israel, also valled as son of God,
That means ( May God forgive me) God is parenting so many Sons, including Jesus, Abraham, Israel, and so on.
Exodus 4:22 "Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, even my firstborn."
Also, let us look at Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn." Ephraim in this verse means Israel. This verse is similar to Exodus 4:22.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
2007-06-05 04:16:08
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answered by Anonymous
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he came as God incarnate. Jesus and God and the Holy spirit being one but separate entities makes this possible. Jesus called himself God as well and so did others. Thomas fell on his hands and knees and called God. Jesus said that was God in John 8:58 as well in John 1:1 he was called God. The servant part of your question is when he was crucified.
2007-06-05 04:07:50
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answered by Anonymous
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