The director's premises are quite primative, as primative as the skeptical society's 1 million dollar reward for prooving psychic ability. I don't need any proof that religion is a load of crap, it does a fine job on its own
2007-06-04 20:23:40
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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I would argue that atheists are too stupid to convert. That is, they're not able to examine an issue objectively and rationally -- otherwise they wouldn't be atheists.
Now give me a good agnostic. I can work with that. Atheists, though... too dumb.
Here's the proof:
1. Everything in nature had an origin. Whether its "in the beginning God created..." or the result of the Big Bang or some other similar event. All of nature came from somewhere.
2. Every effect has a cause.
3. Since everything in nature had an origin, and every effect has a cause, there must've been a cause that brought about the origin of all natural things.
4. The cause of all natural things can't itself be natural, because we're talking about the cause of ALL natural things. Therefore the cause of all natural things is supernatural (that is, outside of nature).
We haven't given him any attributes to tie him to a particular religion, but we've just seen a proof for the existence of a supernatural being. An atheist must deny this proof and thereby deny reality. I can't convert someone who has at the core of their belief system a denial of reality.
2007-06-04 19:52:18
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answered by Craig R 6
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Damn. I agree with that guy, and I couldn't sit through all of that. Here's a tip. If you're going to record your argument in an audio file, try to sound like you mean and have confidence in what you're saying. Do something people might want to listen to! The guy is obviously reading something he wrote, in a very indifferent tone, and keeps stumbling over it all.
However, I echo most of the points he made. Especially about people claiming that prophecies have been fulfilled when there is a multitude of reasons the prophecies they speak of, are invalid. And pointing to current scientific knowledge, in religious texts. Ummm...no. What is suggested by the believer, and what the text actually says, are quite different, and the connection was made by their own desperation for evidence. But I digress.
Maybe when I have enough free time, I'll work on doing something similar.
2007-06-04 19:53:41
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answered by Master Maverick 6
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Dead Prez: I would neither waste my time visiting your sites as I would listen to the Priests who paid the soldiers to say the disciples stole Jesus from the grave. Anyone intelligent knew soldiers would fight to the death rather than be executed for letting a prisoner escape.
For over three decades I was an atheist. But it was not my fault, no one presented evidence in an intelligent manner that I might believe.
Yet, some Christians who actually wanted to convert me from atheism, invited me to some bible studies. Evidence there dented my atheistic faith. So I studied alone, read ten different Bible translations and matched it with history.
There is a secret Bible code for atheists, one last chance to reveal to them God's plan to save this planet. It says the wicked will not understand, so you can see if there is still hope. God did come to save sinners!
http://abiblecode.tripod.com
Blessings, Balaam
2007-06-04 20:00:32
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answered by Anonymous
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The way I see it, there are about 4 or 5 true Atheists here and then just a bunch of people who don't know what they are.. but they know that they can get a rise out of Christians by saying that they are Atheists.. so they do...
People don't convert others, only themselves and the Holy Ghost can do that.
2007-06-04 19:53:18
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answered by ♥Tom♥ 6
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Yeah, I agree with the guy's premises, show me any of those proofs and you got a convert!
2007-06-04 19:57:06
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answered by Anonymous
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Why are you trying to convert? What knowledge do you have that no other man has? Why not be yourself and let others seek because of personal choice and not choices that are made up by man!
Is someone truly "saved" because a man says they are, is someone truly saved because they are baptised by man? All this means nothing unless you love the Lord with all your heart.
My question to you, are you truly saved? Because you have asked such a question, you are saved by man.
2007-06-04 20:04:17
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answered by The missionary 2
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Not really, no. If I do, fine. If I don't, fine. But it's not me that's going to do the converting. So I'm not actually trying. I'm just answering questions. And sometimes asking them.
2007-06-04 20:08:05
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answered by The_Cricket: Thinking Pink! 7
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no-maybe as a Christian I should try, but I have and there really is nothing I can do. this is an awful attitude, but if they are adults that is their decision and it really is there problem and consequnce as well. And atheists still cannot accept that Christianity is mostly based on faith, not proof. faith is the basis of religion.
2007-06-04 20:07:13
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answered by Anonymous
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I'm Agnostic. But no Christian, has given me any proof of the existent of God. I've study the bible. It hasn't proved nothing. I've asked God to give me proof any proof. Yet I've received none. People told me you have God in your heart to hear him. Trust me I want more than anything to "know" God but he seems to shun me. I ask my religious friends how they found God. And you know the difference between me and them? They was spoon fed the bible since the first started talking. My parents decided it would be best for me to decide what I should believe.
2007-06-04 20:00:38
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answered by Jayclark 3
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