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for example, in the Talmud, what does Babha Kama 113a really say?

2007-06-04 18:58:08 · 8 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Yes, the Talmud is **constantly** misquoted and misinterpreted deliberately to advance anti-Semitic agendas. I've put a great link below which gives the real explanation to your question, as well as many others.

[edit] As an appropriate Talmudic addition, "Mysterious Bob" is both right *and* wrong. There is no "Babha Kama" because that is not the way it is traditionally spelled. The correct (or at least typical) English transliteration is "Baba Kamma" and I happen to have it right here beside me--it's one of about 40 volumes of the printing of the Talmud which I own.

2007-06-04 19:28:16 · answer #1 · answered by Mark S, JPAA 7 · 2 0

Yep- and many use the book by Hoffman, which was based on an article from De Sturmer (the mouth piece of the Nazis in the 1930s)

And while trying to seem clever- you manage to get your question wrong- that should be BABA Kama 113a

The passage there is talking about behaviour in court. The passage that the anti-Semites tend to distort is the fact that if the Jew is pulled in front of a non-jewish court, and is innocent of a crime, he is allowed to lie to make sure he will go free. However, that is the ONLY time he is allowed to lie- to make sure that the correct verdict gets passed in a non-Jewish court or to make sure that he is not being punished just because he is a Jew. With all the kangaroo courts and show trials fo Jews down the ages- its hardly surprising that such permission was given (one example is that during the Roman era it was forbidden for Jews to study Torah or observe the Sabath. if the Jew was caught doing either of these and taken to a court for judgement - and if found guilty sentenced to death. Considering the crime and its ramifications, the Rabbis allowed the person to lie- so he could leave and return to his Torah study!)

As an addendum to Mark S' statement: The Babylonian Talmud is made up of 32 Masechtas (sections)- each of which is a rather lenghty volume. English translations frequently go to more volumes than the original- so the Artscroll translation of the entire Talmud runs to 72 volumes- some masechtas being three or four volumes in length(Such as Shabbos and Yevamos)

2007-06-05 07:13:09 · answer #2 · answered by allonyoav 7 · 1 0

There is no Babha Kama. So if somebody has conned you into believing that there is, then the answer is yes.

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Edit. I searched for Babha Kama. It's all nonsense. I'm Jewish and I went to a Jewish private school, so you can take my word for it. There is no law anywhere that says this. It's nonsense. In fact, Judaism does not look down upon non-Jews. Even the ultra-orthodox Jews don't do this. I'm not orthodox, but I have relatives that are, and they would never believe something like that.

Babha Kama doesn't say anything. It doesn't exist.

Don't believe me? Search Google for Babha Kama (or Yahoo, if you wish) and see if you can find a single Jewish website that claims this. I mean, anything that seems like a valid resource for Jewish beliefs. But you won't find it.

It is a lie. Some people who are intolerant of religions made this up. More info here -- scroll down to "contemporary attacks" if you don't see it right away.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talmud#Contemporary_attacks

That is your answer. That is anti-semitism for you. What's worst of all is that it gives the other religions a bad name thanks to a small amount of lying fools.

2007-06-05 02:26:36 · answer #3 · answered by Mysterious Bob 4 · 1 0

Of course. One of the time proven ways of getting people to hate Jews is by misquoting the Torah or Talmud.

As far as what it really says, you would have to read Hebrew and Aramaic. But here is a translation you might be able to understand. Keep in mind, when someone has an "agenda" they tend to translate in a manner that supports their agenda. Taking a single line out of context is also a time proven way of getting people to hate the Jews.

2007-06-05 02:10:54 · answer #4 · answered by forgivebutdonotforget911 6 · 2 0

They do, but when anyone misquotes any holy book it is usually apparent at once to thinking people that those who do such things already are arguing from a position of weakness and are quickly dismissed as the troublemakers they are.

2007-06-05 02:10:13 · answer #5 · answered by RIFF 5 · 3 0

ive noticed the only people who quote the talmud are some muslims and neo nazis and when they mention either zionism or the talmud i dismiss them as wacky racists

2007-06-05 02:01:42 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 3 0

I'm an anti-semite, and I do all the time.

2007-06-05 02:01:02 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 3

isn't hatred just altogether wrong.

2007-06-05 02:05:25 · answer #8 · answered by Styme the Brave 3 · 3 0

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