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Then in verse 3 it says immediatly ,Through Him ( not God ) all things were made;without Him nothing was made that has been made. In Him was life, and that light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

John the baptist comes to proclaim who that light is and testified concerning that light which is mentioned above.Jesus

ephesians 6:17 the sword of Spirit which is the word of God. The bible.
SO you say the word of God is in error and needed your correction. Did you tell the Spirit of God this or is His word not complete and God's Spirit does not know the beginning and the end and not capable of preserving His word throughout time.

Jesus was given the title of Emmanuel ( God with us) It is in His Word inspired by the Holy Spirit which was given in great measure to God's appointed desciples.
This seems clear and we are to look to God's infalible word, not a man almost 1950 years after.
Do you accept Jesus as the Light of God,study before you answer

2007-06-04 17:25:13 · 7 answers · asked by Dennis James 5 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

( Not God because Jesus is God as so is God's Spirit)

2007-06-04 17:26:07 · update #1

I know in John 1:1 it says The Word was God. It is a continuation of another debate I had with a JW

2007-06-04 17:30:43 · update #2

Loose idiot and I will give you a thumbs up. Respectable debates are pathways to gain influence.

2007-06-04 17:37:14 · update #3

no spell checker in addons , lol (lose)

2007-06-04 17:38:56 · update #4

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The problem with the the JW translation is that even Greek scholars who are not believers think that is a bad translation. I suppose that is not surprizing since there are court records that can be tracked down that clearly demonstrate that the founder - who claimed to be an expert in Greek - was proven in court to not only not be a scholar, but to not know any Greek at all.

I am just amazed at the amount of people who follow sects without searching out the truth of the history of the sects. I suppose that is why the early church was in homes, spirit led, and in oppostion to the religious sects of the time in general.

2007-06-04 20:07:34 · answer #1 · answered by wadecrptrng 2 · 2 0

The Greek interpretation would read to the effect that "in beginning (en archei), the Word,(logos) and the Word is God and God is the Word. The first few verses of John 1 are a brief synopsis and description of who God is and the activities He involved Himself with in creating the world. Per Gen. 1:3 it is the literal Word of God that permeates creation. "And God said, Let there be light". The scriptures are also called the Word of God. (Acts 8:14). "With God" signifies the perfect fellowship of God the Father and God the Son in eternity. Likewise it emphasizes the distinction of the Godhead and stresses the essential unity. In the Greek text of this verse, God is a predicate adjective, appearing without article and preceeding "The Word", thus emphasizing Jesus' divinity. John's expression could not have expressed the full divinity of Jesus Christ more completely.

2007-06-04 21:21:19 · answer #2 · answered by tender n 1 · 1 0

More ignorant people who can't see the truth right in front of their faces. If Jesus is with God, how can he be God? Also, by rendeing John 1:1 as "the Word was God," it brings it into direct contradiction with the rest of the Bible. For instance, if Jesus is God, who came to earth? God or God's Son? John 3:17 says it was God's Son. If Jesus is God, why did Jesus say at John 17:3 that his Father was the ONLY true God? Those who criticise the NWT's rendering of John 1:1 show how little they know from the Bible.

The Son’s share in the creative works, however, did not make him a co-Creator with his Father. The power for creation came from God through his holy spirit, or active force. (Ge 1:2; Ps 33:6) And since Jehovah is the Source of all life, all animate creation, visible and invisible, owes its life to him. (Ps 36:9) Rather than a co-Creator, then, the Son was the agent or instrumentality through whom Jehovah, the Creator, worked. Jesus himself credited God with the creation, as do all the Scriptures.—Mt 19:4-6;

2007-06-04 18:00:32 · answer #3 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 1 3

Yall keep mentioning that Emmanuel name..Jesus said when you look at the son..you see the father...meaning...as he said before we have the same attributes of love , justice, wisdom and power.
Jesus was created..then God sat back and allowed his son to take it from there. Through Jesus as the master worker..everything was made.
I can say I built a house but I actually didn't touch a hammer. So God created humans although he never touched them.

2007-06-04 18:36:28 · answer #4 · answered by debbie2243 7 · 0 2

Jw translate to their own liking not according to the word of God

2007-06-04 17:42:43 · answer #5 · answered by Gifted 7 · 2 1

JW's have conveniently translated the bible to fit their idiotic dogma.

i can only imagine how john 1 reads in their "bible."

2007-06-04 17:34:36 · answer #6 · answered by blackroserequiem 2 · 0 1

The only discernible question here seems to be "Do Jehovah's Witnesses accept Jesus as the Light of God?".

The answer is "Yes".
The prophet Simeon prayed thusly regarding Jesus: "my eyes have seen [God's] means of saving... a light for removing the veil from the nations (Luke 2:30-32).

Jehovah's Witnesses certainly do NOT believe that the Word of God is in error, but rather believe the bible to be the only infallible and inspired means of learning God's will and purposes.

In connection with the introduction by this "questioner", it might be noted that the bible plainly teaches that God the Father used Jesus the Son as the creating agent to create all the heavens, all the physical universe, and all the creatures who live in both (angels, humans, and the lower creatures). The ultimate creative powers originates from God the Father, and that power is actually exercised under the Father's direction by (or "through") the "master worker" Jesus Christ (See Proverbs 8:22,27-30 "I came to be beside [God] as a master worker [or "one brought up with him", KJV]").

(Colossians 1:12-16) Thanking the Father... He delivered us from the authority of the darkness and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son...15 He [the Son] is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All other things have been created through him and for him.
(Colossians 1:12-16, KJV) Giving thanks unto the Father... Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son... 15 [The Son] Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him

(John 1:3) All things came into existence through [Jesus the Word], and apart from him not even one thing came into existence.
(John 1:3, KJV) All things were made by [Jesus the Word]; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

(John 1:10,14) The world came into existence through him, but the world did not know him. ...So [Jesus] the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father
(John 1:10,14, KJV) The world was made by him, and the world knew him not. ...And [Jesus] the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,)

(Hebrews 1:1-4) God... has at the end of these days spoken to us by means of a Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom he made the systems of things. [Jesus] sustains all things by the word of his power; and after he had made a purification for our sins he sat down on the right hand of the Majesty in lofty places. So he has become better than the angels
(Hebrews 1:1-4, KJV) God... Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; [Jesus] upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high; Being made so much better than the angels

(Revelation 3:14) [Jesus] the Amen says, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation by God...
(Revelation 3:14, KJV) Saith [Jesus] the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God...

(Genesis 1:26) God went on to say: “Let us ["the Father" and "the Son"] make man in our image, according to our likeness
(Genesis 1:26, KJV) And God said, Let us ["the Father" and "the Son"] make man in our image, after our likeness

(1 Corinthians 8:6) There is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are
(1 Corinthians 8:6, KJV) To us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

(Micah 5:2) And you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, the one too little to get to be among the thousands of Judah, from you there will come out to me [Jehovah] the one who is to become ruler in Israel, whose [Jesus'] origin is from early times [rather than without beginning]
(Micah 5:2, KJV) But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he [Jesus] come forth unto me [Jehovah] that is to be ruler in Israel; whose [Jesus'] goings forth have been from of old [rather than without beginning]

Thanks for the opportunity to discuss the distinctness and relationship of Jesus and Jehovah!

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2007-06-04 17:59:50 · answer #7 · answered by achtung_heiss 7 · 0 3

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