How many would support the bill if all the following were in place?

Question

1.Secure and tighten border
2.Electronic Visa which could be utilized by all government agencies and Law Enforcement
3.No Visa holder can receive Welfare,Foodstamps, Free Medical,Social Security or any other type of federal program
4.They must speak English or take classes for English to keep their visa
5.A background check from this country and theirs
6.A full physical exam
7.No visa's will be issued until numbers 1 and 2 are in place
8.After the electronic visa is issued with employer verification system in place any business which knowingly hires an illegal will be charged $75,000.00 per illegal for a third offense.
9.Law enforcement will have the right to ask for visa.If they don't have one Law enforcement will be allowed to detain until deportation hearing.
10.Any illegal who can't prove they have been in U S since before January 1,2007 will not receive a visa.
11.No one holding a visa may vote.
12.A z-visa holder must pay a $5000.00 fine in several payments.

Islesfan..It's not papers it actually like a debit card or I D card that is electroniclly used for verification.It's also a picture id on the card and in the system so they can run the picture along with the name.

helter skelter for this question I'm only speaking of the illegals.Another question later on will deal with those wishing to immigrate.

Sousuki,ok we'll add that too.Good idea

Yak rider ok we'll do that too and as a bonus we'll cut out the family preference too.Meaning a cut back on who qualifies as family.No more extended family visa's sound good?

Geno if a current law has caused a problem then isn't it time to change it?

Cyclops,ok the wall will be built and 6 to 10,000 more Border Patrol and "INS" workers will be hired to keep things in check while the wall is being built and improved on.All this may very well take 2 years.In the mean time we do the background checks,physicals while the illegals are applying.But they can't get their visa's until 1 and 2 are fully operational.They just receive a temporary approval to live here until they qualify for a z-visa or if they don't pass the background checks or physical they are deported.At least we'd have an address where to find them if they don't pass right?Make sense?

Lili, refugees fall into a different catagory this is for illegal immigrants.The physical is for contagious disease or mental illness such as that which could be dangerous to citizens.Not learning disabled.Many learning disabled work somewhere.

mohavelisa, ok you don't agree with the 75 thousand dollar fine for a third offense I think it's fair.Why would you want such a little fine?Anyway ok we'll shut the business down after a third offense.The reason for the date is for the kids because otherwise they would be illegal.

Also the background check WOULD be done in our country not theirs.But we would contact their country to see if they have a record there or are wanted.Which would mean deportation if they say either of the above is true.

Answer 1

I read your question and with a few tweaks we can work out a deal.

1. Build complete fence and close border for minimum of 5 years.
2. Better yet Implantable RFID chip.
3. I'll agree with number 3.
4. They must speak English and continue to speak English in public. Also take classes to learn English if they don't already speak it. In there own home they can speak whatever.
5. A background done in our country. I don't trust theirs.
6. I'll agree with number 6.
7. I'll agree with number 7.
8. $25,000 per fine, after 3rd fine the employer gets shut down.
9. I'll agree with number 9.
10. January 1, 1987 is better.
11. I'll agree with number 11.
12. Make it a $10,000 fine, and 3 payment maximum.

If the immigration reform bill said all that I would be protesting for the government to pass that!. Doubt it will happen.

** The reason I picked 1987 is that because it's been 21 years since the last amnesty. Even if women that received amnesty in 1986 were pregnant at the time, her child would now be at least 21 years old. Those children would now be American citizens. So whomever came here AFTER the last amnesty would still be considered Illegals. And all those rules above could and should be used for them.

Answer 2

it all sounds good except the part about issuing visas to reward those who have hid in this country a certain period of time. Why does it matter if they were here before 2007 , if your going to give a free ride to 12-20 million illegals . Why deny a couple hundred more? Anyhow i might vote for such a bill if no visass are issued until 1,2,and 3 are in place but only after a 5 year probation period . ANY violation of any law and your blackballed. Also i support a provision in which any us citizen can at any time for any reason have any illegal immigrant deported.no questions asked. This way we can help weed out at least a small percentage of the really really stupid ones, and those who refuse to use english.

Answer 3

How about we first build the fence President Regan promised, when everybody excepted the last amnesty in 1986.
to do anything else is a joke.

But I'm sure if we stopped the flow of entry level workes, the Government might loose all those S.S and Medicare taxes they collect to keep afloat those systems.

Answer 4

I have a quick question, if you don't mind answering :)

I'm guessing this is about the new bill being talked about. Does this apply to people who come here on refugee status? (refuges- people who come to the US because of war in their country example would be Darfur)

Also, why a physical exam? What do you do if a person is dying of cancer? Are hospitals not to treat them? What if is a 10 year old with cancer? What if the person is physically disabled or has a mental illness (and I'm not talking about depression I'm thinking along the lines of developmental disorder)

Answer 5

Would that be structured the way the current bill is where there is legalization before the visas so that the triggers don't have teeth?

And does that mean they would ADD to the border security provisions they enacted into law last year instead of cutting border officers and the fence in HALF?

I'd have to see how it was written. The bill there now had a lot of thought put into it on how to give with one hand and take away with another.

Answer 6

Secure and tighten the border is too general.

The border must be sealed, period. An independent panel would be required to certify the boarder is sealed before any amnesty starts. I would not believe a thing Bush or any member of Congress says.

I'd also want to see an end to "chain migration." We must change the system to pick immigrants based on education, skills and ability to adapt to American culture.

You must have a provision ending all federal funding to cities who act as "sanctuary cities."

Finally, I'd require illegal aliens to admit their crimes in return for their amnesty. I'd force them to submit full confessions in affidavit format so there was no ambiguity as to what they did, and the fact that it was illegal, and to the fact that we, Americans, out of the goodness of our hearts, have granted them amnesty.

Answer 7

Sounds Good, but it always does, I say enforce our existing
Laws First. After the Border Wall is in Place, for 2 years, then
revisit the issue.

Answer 8

Change number 10 to 1 jan 1987, and I"m in.

Answer 9

come across a extra much less costly place to stay and attempt to get a facet job which will pay funds. even however you do no longer hear of a lot of human beings paying funds, maximum small companies will in case you ask. they might fairly pay funds.

Answer 10

If by "supporting the bill" you mean, giving eventual amnesty to tens of millions of illegal aliens, NO!!!

We need to enforce current laws on the books, which CAUSED the situation we are in now.

Prosecute employers for hiring illegals.
Do not rent or sell houses to illegals.
Do not give any monetary assistance for any reason to illegal aliens.

As well as the border being insufficiently secure.

EDIT: If we had enforced the laws we have on the books now, we would NOT be in the situation we are in now. (the lack of enforcement thereof CAUSED the situation we are in now)