Are we, as Jews in Israel, not repeating the acts of Nazis, what we are doing in Israel?

Question

I have visited those former death camps, I have seen the footage that the Nazis were foolish enough to film, it is heart breaking for me to see what happened to our people is being repeated still to this very day, by our own, to anyone else. Violence can not always be the answer to everything, can it? Are we shaming the memories of our familiy members who perished and were tortured for no good reason? Would they be pleased with us if they were to see us now?

Answer 1

I hope you aren't repeating the acts of the Nazis.

Israel may be treating the Palestinians worse than the Nazis treated the French, Danish and Belgians, Poles, Dutch, Norwegians and people of other countries it conquered. Although Nazis would punish whole villages for the resistance actions of a few, it didn't force out the whole population and settle Germans in their place.

It is true that Israel was founded by ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians, and committed many atrocities to accomplish it. If you look at the legal definition of genocide which includes destruction of a particular ethnic or religious group "in whole or in part", ethnic cleansing can be called genocide, but that isn't the common meaning. Of course the whole basis for that or any ethnic cleansing is the racist idea that certain people have rights and others don't. Israel has always granted certain exclusive rights to Jews only.

So far it hasn't set up death camps or done things like what the Nazis did to the Jews . I hope it won't, but I keep hearing of people beating the drums for it e.g. certain rabbis in Israel saying that it's OK to kill mass numbers of innocent people for the actions of a few. And imprisoning people in Gaza or the West Bank enclaves sounds like a kind of beginning. So while Israel hasn't done anywhere near what the Nazis did to the Jews, its bad enough, and I worry.

Answer 2

Was anyone physically living on that land previously? If not, then what difference does it make if those people are living there now... If a resident of New York took up residence in Pennsylvania - does it matter? I don't know all of the details, but in this case I believe that if the Jewish settlers were given the option to stay so long as that land be part of Palestine (for tax purposes, etc.) we would see that (just like your question) it still wouldn't resolve things because it's more about prejudice than anything else.

Answer 3

Standard anti-Zionis rubbish. There are no mass graves, no concentration camps, no death marches or anything remeniscint of the Nazis. Israeli Arabs are full citizens with full rights and participate in every element of Israeli society.

And my family members who survived the holocaust and live in Israel fought proudly in the 1948 war, in 1956, their children in 1967 and 1973, their grandchildren were in Lebanon last year. And they are proud and look at Israel as something fantastic, to be supported and protected at all cost. They view those jews not supporting Israel as traitors and as people that are blind to the hatred in the world aimed at jews- hatred that has once led to the death of 6 million Jews, a hatred that has never dissapeared and can be seen clearly in the leaders of our enemies!

Answer 4

Honestly, I think that comparing the holocaust to the current day situation shames those who were in the holocaust more than anything else. There are no death camps; no forced marches where thousands just die by the sides of the road. In 5 years of Nazi oppression, 6 million Jews and 5 million other innocents were put to death. In 40 years of Israeli control, the Palestinian population has experienced exponential population growth. In short, there is not much room for comparison. Now you need to ask yourself: is your opinion colored by the fact that you disagree with the right for Israel to exist? Because many of the more radical Jews jump from that belief to taking any point against Israel - which leads to the Neturei Karta going to Iran's holocaust denial conference.

Answer 5

Yes, I agree. And those who don't, militant midget and crew, probably didn't have any family go through that, and even worse, live to tell of it. You have no idea what you're talking about. It is the same thing, just different methods.

Answer 6

Genocide is genocide no matter how long it takes.

I totally agree with you. I also agree that every Israeli is not committing these crimes. The true blame lays at the feet of the Government.

Golda Meir said: "There is no such thing as a Palestinian"

Extremist rabbi Yousef Falay who lives in the Yitzhar settlement on illegally seized Palestinian land in the northern part of the West Bank said on - Monday, 18 September 2006
"We have to make sure that no Palestinian individual remains under our occupation. If they (Palestinians) escape then it is good; but if anyone of them remains, then he should be exterminated"

again Genocide is genocide no matter if it's mass murder or carried out over 60 years and continuing

Answer 7

Hold on a second..... no one asked the Arab nations to unite against Israel and attack it time and again, on a holy festival as well? When was the last time a jewish suicide bomber attacked an arab restaurant?
The whole situation is regrettable but don't fall into the trap of swallowing everything the left dishes out as anti-zionist because at heart they have always been jew-haters.
Shalom chever

Answer 8

I agree with George, because It is a shame when we don't love our neighbor as ourselves.

Answer 9

The comparison between the Zionists and Nazis is the Nazis killed 6 million poor Jews and its all over with where the Zionist are killing 6 million Palestinian refugees while they are a live and its not over with. The Palestinian rather to be dead and not living homeless for the last 59 years.

Answer 10

If you are as you claim Jewish and believe the crap you write here and in other posts you`d see the major difference between the Middle East situation and Nazi Germany.
Where are the DEATH CAMPS in the Middle East ?
Where are the "special" hospitals where scientists experiment on the terminally-ill and other undesirables ?
NOW look at your "foolish" film footage and compare that with the actual events going on now.
I`m NOT Jewish HOWEVER I do know about distinguishing the facts from propaganda.
My thoughts on your rubbish here ?
You`re not Jewish ,you`re an Arab just trying to muddy the waters.You`ve obviously NEVER been inside Israel or Palestine whatever you wish to refer to that area as or you`d know how things are there.
IF you are Jewish ,you shame your Mother and each and every one of the six million plus by this post.