May I ask why do police officers answer about other police who rapes,sexual harasses women saying that the woman were really asking for it. Same with when a police abuses his wife, I've notice some police here again, blame the woman from saying she was asking for it and will return within hours, jim h treats sexual harassment and abuse of women by police as a causal matter,why the fuss. Do all police have this attitude-
jim h
if she didn't mind?
WHY NOT?
Is this sound reasoning from anyone professing to police officer that it is all the womans fault???????????
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070604104105AABOxZd&r=w#LrNaXTDIDkuvvGNrFVoy
2007-06-04
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trueblue3167 this story contained sexual harassesment Who knows what else he did just from doing what he did brings what is his real mental state ? I seen cops have say over and the woman asked for it. trueblue3167, don't worry God will get them and no badge can stop it
2007-06-04
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trueblue3167 stop demanding and commanding what you INIST I must do. i suppose you have warned me and intend to arrest me for not obey you
2007-06-04
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Princess Leia I ask do a web serach of just how police abuse their power towards attractive women.
2007-06-04
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It is because of the cop code that a cop can do no wrong. The small percentage that do not practice this cannot make a difference in the system.
In the case to this link the sexual misconduct was toward another cop and the sheriff's Dept. hire a law firm to investigate leaving the results of the investigation private under the attorney client privledge. This costs the county over $4,000 to prevent prosecution.
http://www.arcadianewsleader.com/default.asp?sourceid=&smenu=73&twindow=&mad=&sdetail=418&wpage=1&skeyword=&sidate=&ccat=&ccatm=&restate=&restatus=&reoption=&retype=&repmin=&repmax=&rebed=&rebath=&subname=&pform=&sc=1284&hn=arcadianewsleader&he=.com
In other cases of sexual assault and or misconduct cops are investigated by their own cooworkers and in some cases relitives of the offending officer.
It seems that "it's her fault" is the best excuse cops can come up with. When the facts do actually make it to the media the excuses of "only a bad apple" or "He slipped through the cracks" come about. The real reason for these excuses is the same as it was her fault. Cops hate to see a cop arrested no matter how evil or sadistic of a person he is, and they do not seem to care about their reputation or how the public sees them. There is something inherintly wrong with that mentality. I was in the Marine Corps and since have worked as a commercial painter and Union Laborer. I would never make excuses for one of my field. Cops make excuses for cops they do not even know and will never meet, it's like a cult of some kind. A very evil cult.
The rate of sexual assaults by cops is higher then any other occupation and web searches or alerts will show that. I cannot access the site at this time for a link but if you go to radio4all.net and then click by series, and then click B, and then bad cop no donut there are about 2 years archives of the show there and every week a cop was in the news for sexual assault, harrassment or misconduct. Some weeks as many as 5 and 6 cops. This was not all that was in the news just what made it to the shows producer by the deadline, and keep in mind that many sexual misconduct and assaults committed by police officers never make the news.
The answer to your question is very simply it is the best excuse they can come up with and tey do not care what the public thinks.
As I said not all but a vast majority of cops are like this.
In the case I was involved in all of these excuses and "That's Dan" were used. It's like talking to children. They tell lies that are totally unbelievable to anyone and expect no one will see through them.
http://nodonut.egoweblog.com/blog/bad_cop_no_donut/program_details/2006/06/15/bcnd_jun_15
To clarify for robocop it was that many for sexual assault, harrasment, and or child porn alone. Other police crimes were also included in this site but not in this question and so not referenced in my answer. But don't you think this is a very high rate of sexual assaults to make the news by one occupation? Again stressing this was not all only what got on the show.
2007-06-04 11:47:03
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answered by tmilestc 4
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I don't think that they all feel this way, I know a few decent cops myself. Some officers look out for eachother, even though they know that the other officer is wrong. They think this is "loyalty", even though the true definition of loyalty would be not doing anything so incredibly stupid that you would expect your officer friends & co-workers to break or ignore laws to protect your dumb a**. Anyone with any common sense knows rape, sexual assault, and sexual harrassment are wrong. I think the ones you know are just frustrated because in many situations, they would have to go thru all this paperwork, media attention, scar the reputation of the department, take away someone's job, and lose a friend to prosecute the offender, then the female ends up going back with the offender a short time later or gets scared and confesses that they just told lies to get revenge. I've seen it happen. On the other hand, if they choose to do nothing, then they also risk the chance of being dragged down with the offender, if charges are pursued with another higher agency. I think they might voice their frustrations, but they probably still do their jobs and enforce the laws. If they choose not to enforce the laws, even though one of their co-workers was involved, then they are wrong and need to find another profession.
...In reference to your above statement... I request you do a websearch of how many males in powerful positions abuse their power to manipulate attractive women, not just cops. That is very very wrong, but it is the world we live in. Once again, I know plenty of good cops. It's not fair to lump them all into the same catergory. You're gonna get a few a*holes no matter where you go: executive, law enforcement, retail, political, and even religious environments. I don't even know the background of this case??? Was this a genuinely creepy and sick guy that just sends lewd pics to females out of the blue??? Was this a mutual office joke taken too far and inadvertently offended a newly included employee??? I don't know how you want people to be all riled up about this when they don't even know the specifics.
What more do you want? The guy was placed on administrative leave while the charges are being investigated. If this was in an executive work environment, instead of law enforcement environment, the guy would have just gotten a slap on the wrist. I see nothing in that article that indicates that he got away with it scott-free. I also see in the article that this may have occurred before, but nothing about charges previously pressed. People are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law, that includes murderers, rapists, and sexual harrassers. In the time-being, he has been removed from the situation to protect the accuser and other employees. You can't punish the guy until the judge/jury says that he is guilty. Exactly what else do you want? Is there something more to this that we don't know? Is he still harrassing the victim? Is he threatening her not to press charges? Is he stalking her? If not, then you just have to try and let the legal system take its course, there's nothing else you can do.
By the way, slurring someone's name when he has not been proven guilty yet is not cool, it's almost as if you have a previous grudge against this guy or cops in general. And if you have such a bad attitude about cops, why do you admit to having many heart-to-hearts with officers where they tell you that the women deserved it. That does not make any sense.
2007-06-04 09:56:22
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answered by Princess Leia 6
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Not unless the male happens to be the father (not the husband) and the woman in question is his daughter under the age of 18. In other words: absolutely not. First of all, the woman does not "belong" to her husband- it's not like the officer is searching the man's car (which, btw, the officer can do without permission if he has probably cause). Secondly, the officer doesn't GROPE the woman. The search is carried out according to specific guidelines to avoid any sexual harassment problems. Finally, the officer needs to search the suspect to ensure his/her safety and the safety of those around.
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Well, maybe all cops look like rapists to the public because we only see them when they are looking ultra-serious, clad in handcuffs, shaved head and making people assume the position lady. When cops do commit sexual asaults and they are caught, the consequences are severe, so a lot of people would prefer to keep quiet? Another question is why are there these groupie women that follow cops around, and do they ever get anywhere with this? I actually know of this hooker that tries to buddy up with a particular cop here and there. Are cops debonair men helping old ladies across the street? Or are they heroes, bravely shooting down troublemakers? Or are they testosterone-laced power hungry mysogenists?
If you go around concentrating on the bad in everyone, you're going to be pretty gloomy. I work in fast food now and I wonder why so many people come in angry and gloomy. I wish they would just learn to see the positive side of consuming an Obesity Burge in a crime-ridden part of town. Yeah some cops rape, some men rape. But they don't all. You can come in and scream at the poor fast food slave or you can just smile and order a yogurt. Its not a perfect world but the smiles and compliments help me make it through the day. :(
2007-06-04 10:46:22
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answered by Anonymous
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Firstly, the link you sent had nothing to do with rape, it was regarding a lewd picture on someone's cell phone. So throwing "rape" in there for the shock value when it has nothing to do for the story
Secondly, you refer to jim h as if he's a police officer, but as far as I can see he's made no such claim. You also seem to already have the notion that all police officers have this attitude, based on what? Someone who doesn't even claim they're a police officer.
He does bring up a good point though, if she didn't mind, what's the problem? He didn't rape her. He had a lewd picture of her. Is that appropriate from a professional stand point? Probably not. Personal stand point? I know plenty of guys, cops and otherwise who have lewd pictures on their cell phone, it doesn't mean they're rapists and advocate sexual harassment, how can you even compare the two?
Also, when did anyone in that post say it's all the woman's fault? I didn't read that anywhere, this sounds like you're trying to play the victim when you weren't even there, or maybe you were a victim and you're bitter about it, if you are, sorry.
Stop painting all cops with the same brush, I've never beaten or raped my girlfriend. I love her to death and would never do anything to hurt her. So instead of getting this sick notion that we're all perverts and out to get women, why don't you ask a real cop, there's plenty on here who will be more than happy to tell you the truth, and apparantly - put you in your place.
2007-06-04 10:05:13
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answered by trueblue3167 4
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Zoe, I never have this attitude. I know of few, if any, police that do. Rape is a terrible crime. In my personal opinion, it is one of the worst crimes that one human being can do to another. The story that you refer to that adam12 (alias: snoop dog) posted was about a police officer who sent lewd pictures to a female co-worker. The story did not relate whether it was unwanted by the co-worker or not. If you wanted your boyfriend to send pictures that other people would consider "lewd" to you; then he should not be punished for doing so under the protection of the 1st Amendment. If someone sent them to you unwanted, they should be punished accordingly. Either way, it is not the woman's "fault". No one said it was her fault.
jim h said "If she didn't mind WHY NOT?" "If" being the operative word here. If she did mind, then it is a crime. If she didn't mind, then no crime occurred. No one has answered in a way to condone rape, sexual harassment, spousal abuse, or any other crime by anyone; police or otherwise. Why are you putting words in people's mouth? That is not what was said.
I do not know if jim h is a police officer or not. I try not to make assumptions. It seems like you are more than willing to though. You assume jim h is a cop, you assume that the woman in the story was a victim of sexual harassment and apparently rape. You assume that all police have a certain attitude or behave in a certain way, or cover fo each other. Making assumptions can be a dangerous thing. Which is why I try not to do it.
EDIT: In response to the answer given by tmilestc:
He stated that the website he listed as showing all the police corruption has "2 years of archives" and stories every week about corrupt police officers which make up the "vast majority" of police. "Some weeks", he writes, there are "as many as 5 or 6". Even if there were 6 every week for the two year archive, that would be about 624 police officers that are corrupt. According to the U.S. Department Of Justice, there are approximately 675,900 sworn police officers in the U.S. not including civilian employees. That represents less than 0.1% of the police that are corrupt. That means that 99.9% of sworn police officers are not corrupt. How is less than 0.1% considered a "vast majority'? Even for the majority (not even "vast" majority) of police to be corrupt, you would have to have allegations on about 350,000 police officers. I challenge anyone to find this many cops with allegations, much less actual convictions, of corruption.
One bad cop is too many. But I don't think you will find another profession with as good of a record. Even ten times the amount that tmilestc quoted would only represent less than one percent. Find another profession, any other profession, with comparable numbers.
2007-06-04 10:49:39
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answered by LawDawg 5
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Accusations must be proven if the policemen committed rape, harassment and abuses. Thus, evidence must be gathered that the policemen abused their authority and assail their contention that the women solicited sexual favors.
2007-06-04 13:18:42
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where do you come up with this statement?i was a officer for 25 years and i never felt that way
2007-06-04 21:36:46
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answered by charlsyeh 7
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No one ever said anything like that. No one ever said that the woman was asking for it, or deserved it, or even should have expected it.
2007-06-04 13:36:12
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answered by Judge Dredd 5
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