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I want to know how many so called Catholics beleive that the host becomes the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ.

2007-06-04 09:34:17 · 21 answers · asked by glen 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

I am a Catholic!!!! I do beleive in the Real Presence! I said so called because people claim there catholic and have no clue about the Real Presence

2007-06-04 09:53:08 · update #1

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"Now as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and broke it, and gave it to the disciples and said, 'Take, eat; this is my body.' And he took a cup, and when he had given thanks he gave it to them, saying, 'Drink of it, all of you; for this is my blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.'" (Mt. 26:26-28)

Bread

Jesus is spiritually present in the bread. It is unleavened, pure as Jesus was pure. It has dark stripes, as His back was striped by Pilate's scourging. It is pierced, as He was pierced on the Cross. Once it was the bread of life for Israel on the desert, as Jesus is the Jn 6:35 Bread of Life for all mankind. During the Seder, the head of the family takes three pieces of unleavened bread, reminding us of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. He breaks in half the second piece, suggesting the Second Person of the Blessed Trinity crucified. He then wraps one of these two pieces, called the afikomen (Hebrew: festival procession), a reminder of Jesus' constant call, "Follow Me," in white linen, reminding us of Jesus linen burial cloth, and "buries" or hides it, as Jesus was entombed. Later the youngest at table "resurrects" or finds the afikomen as Jesus rose from the dead. The head of the family then breaks the afikomen and passes it around for all to eat, as Jesus did when He told His apostles, Lk 22:19 "This is My Body which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of Me." In that way, Jesus through the Seder calls us to follow Him into His death and resurrection, to become a new person in Christ.

The unleavened bread also reminds us of the haste with which the Israelites left Egypt. The dough that they were sunbaking on the hot rocks of the Egyptian fields was removed before it could leaven, and so remained flat. It represents our need to remain ever alert and prepared for the day when God calls us to our destiny as Jesus told us, Mt 25:13 "Watch, therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour."


Wine

Jesus is spiritually present in the wine. When the afikomen is broken and passed around for all to eat, Jews drink the third of four cups of wine, called the cup of blessing because it represents the blood of the sacrificed paschal lamb. It is the cup that Jesus gave to His apostles, saying, Lk 22:20 "This cup which is poured out for you is the New Covenant in My Blood." He did not drink the fourth, the Kalah cup, explaining, Mt 26:29 "I tell you I shall not drink again of this fruit of the vine until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom." But later that evening at Gethsemane, Jesus prayed by moonlight, Mt 26:39 "Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from Me." After He was captured, Jesus asked Peter, Jn 18:11 "Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given Me?" Many Catholics believe that Jesus drank the last cup on the Cross, Jn 19:29 "They put a sponge full of the vinegar on hyssop and held it to His mouth. When Jesus had received the vinegar, He said, 'It is finished'; and He bowed His head and gave up His spirit."



Blessed are you, Lord, God of all creation. Through your goodness we have, this bread to offer, which earth has given and human hands have made. It will become for us the bread of life.

Blessed be God forever.

Blessed are you, Lord, God of all creation. Through your goodness we have, this wine to offer, fruit of the vine and work of human hands. It will become our spiritual drink.

Blessed be God forever.


Lamb of God, you take away, the sins of the world; have mercy on us. Lamb of God, you take away, the sins of the world; have mercy on us. Lamb of God, you take away, the sins of the world; grant us peace.


This is the Lamb of God who takes
away the sins of the world. Happy are those who are called to his supper.

Lord, I am not worthy to receive but only say the word, and I shall be healed.

Yes I truly believe Christ is present in the Holy Eucharist

2007-06-04 13:18:21 · answer #1 · answered by tebone0315 7 · 0 0

Because God said so. Jesus said, "My flesh is REAL food; my blood is REAL drink". REAL, not symbolic. He said "THIS IS my body" THIS IS my blood". Catholics accept and believe the Word of God. All of it, not just what is convenient or easy.

When Jesus preached this to the people, many got up and walked away shaking their heads, and followed Him no more. Obviously they took Him to be speaking literally. Otherwise there would have been no reason for them to abandon Him over His teaching. If all these people were walking away from eternal life over a simple misunderstanding, because they thought He was saying something that He was not actually saying, why didn't He speak up and correct the misunderstanding?? Obviously, because there was no misunderstanding. They understood Him just as He intended to be understood.

The writings of the earliest Fathers of the Church repeatedly confirm the belief of the early Church that the Eucharist is literally the body and blood of the risen Savior. Paul also writes that anyone who receives the Eucharist unworthily is guilty of the body and blood of the Lord. Why would someone have to be "worthy" to participate in a mere symbolic gesture?

And, Jesus told the Church that whatsoever it binds upon earth is bound in heaven. The real presence of Christ in the Most Holy Eucharist is binding teaching on all Christians, even though some of them do not know or accept it, and is therefore bound in heaven.

2007-06-04 09:43:09 · answer #2 · answered by PaulCyp 7 · 5 0

The reason we believe that Jesus is wholly present in the Eucharist is because He Himself said that He was. In the original language, there is no verb "is" in His statement, "This is my Body which is given for you."

Luke 22:19 And he took bread, and gave thanks, and brake it, and gave unto them, saying, This is my body which is given for you: this do in remembrance of me."

The same thing is true of His description of His Precious Blood.

Luke 22:20 Likewise also the cup after supper, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood, which is shed for you.

The result in the original text would be, "This bread= My Body, this cup= My Blood." He didn't say this is sorta kinda like my Body and Blood, or if you want to pretend this is Me, that's OK.

He made a direct correlation between the elements of the Eucharist and His Body and Blood. So that's how we know (not just believe) that the Host becomes the Real Presence of Christ.

2007-06-04 09:54:13 · answer #3 · answered by Wolfeblayde 7 · 1 0

Glen,

I am a Catholic. I do believe that the host becomes the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus Christ. Unequivocally.

2007-06-04 09:38:13 · answer #4 · answered by Pete W 5 · 4 0

So if Jesus says nobody knows his return, how come a priest is going to have power to bring down to earth the blood and flesh of Jesus!

Jesus was definitively talking to angels when he said that, they are the blood suckers and the hades the flesh eaters. They are the ones who instituted the human sacrifices to the so many would be gods. The animal sacrifices had been also the cheap excuse of man for his evil.
On the count that we were created to his image and likeness.

That is why Jesus made the last sacrifice for man, to abolish sacrifices, yet the catholic church continues many rituals.


Not even the disciples understood this things but until they were helped by the power of the Holy Ghost. Why is it so difficult to understand that Jesus in many occasions was talking to angels, not to man. The revelation of Jesus was to show God to us, he said he is one with the father, Do you really think that Jesus made any animal sacrifice?

2007-06-04 10:18:38 · answer #5 · answered by Davinci22 3 · 0 2

As with the trinity, there was a gradual growth of this teaching, as so clearly shown in The Encyclopædia Britannica (1942), Vol. 8, pp. 795-797. The term “transubstantiation” did not appear until the eleventh century. Its being made an official dogma of the Roman Catholic Church in 1215 started the scourge of torturing and murdering thousands upon thousands of Jews on the rumor that they had “desecrated the host” by piercing it with needles or crushing it under foot, as though the Jews believed the fiction of transubstantiation! Wycliffe came out unequivocally against this teaching, as did also Zwingli. Luther, however, seemed reluctant to let it drop.

The fiction of transubstantiation has done much harm. It fosters idolatry in that both priests and people adore the “host” as the body of Christ upon the priests’ saying, “Hoc est autem corpus meum,” and then ringing a bell. In holding that only an ordained priest can perform the sacrifice of the mass and pronounce the words of consecration the people are made wholly dependent upon their priests for forgiveness of sins.

Truly reason, the facts and the Scriptures unite to prove that the Bible does not teach transubstantiation and that it is a fiction and not a fact.

2007-06-04 09:44:04 · answer #6 · answered by LineDancer 7 · 1 4

I'm not a Catholic but I was once in a deep state of prayer and Jesus showed me two Eucharists: one symbolic and the other real.

He spoke and said, "Which would you rather have?"

2007-06-04 09:51:43 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

Sure I do.

I studied it for over 20 years in depth before joining.

It is what Jesus said, "This is my Body"

Peace!

Before blindly bashing, you might do a search in the Catechism of the Catholic Church!

2007-06-04 09:37:41 · answer #8 · answered by C 7 · 4 0

Yes sir! But remember, it's a living flesh, not dead flesh. If you were to eat a piece of the average human being the flesh would be dead as soon as you removed it. Jesus' flesh, in contrast, is living. I think everyone else covered the necessary bible versus.

2007-06-04 09:56:06 · answer #9 · answered by Thom 5 · 1 0

Indeed I do!

Just as we believe Jesus is the son of God, came down to earth suffered and died for us....... so too we can believe He is truly present in the Eucharist.

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2007-06-04 09:41:13 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

That's the idea. But it's one thing to say you "believe" in the "Real Presence" based on John 6:55, or what have you; it's quite another to accept the Host and the Wine, and then find your mouth full of Bleeding Flesh!

2007-06-04 09:38:49 · answer #11 · answered by jonjon418 6 · 1 4

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