CAN anyone really explain the trinity to me...?

Question

i need to understand how god can be jesus, god and holy spirit.
i never believed it until i saw that rev. billy graham believes it.
does anyone know if charles stanley does too???

i trust pastor graham.
why did jesus pray to himself in the garden etc if he is god??
it seems that in revelations he is god.
but not in matthew, luke etc.

he says he was sent by god & that he can do nothing except that the father god gives the power.
could it be that god has a son in heaven at that time and gods sons spirit went into jesus at his baptism from john the baptist???
was maybe jesus 100% man??
when he was on the cross gods sons spirit left him & he became again 100% human???
can anyone really help me to understand.???
please donot say have faith.
thanks.
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Answer 1

I can explain trinity by a simple analogy..... three person in one god....its like drinking coffee..... you have sugar (God the Father), coffee (God the Son), and a creamer (Holy Spirit)... if you pour hot water on it.... you cant determine anymore which one is coffee or sugar or creamer....they are all combined for you to have a wonderful coffee experience.....

Answer 2

okay, it's like this. God is an essense. that essense contains a mind, as well as the substance.

because God cannot change, the only way to have a son would be to have him of Him, right? He can't go through a process with switching dna like we can. His essense is one. so Jesus was like a branch off of this essense, actually having the essense, which includes the mind and substance.
coming from the one who identifies Himself as the Father, makes Jesus the Son.

Jesus was also seen before on earth several times, since He is the only member of the Trinity designated for man to approach. you cannot approach the Father, simply because He is unapproachable light; it's impossible. you cannot see the Holy Spirit. so who's left?
ex: Moses on the Mount saw God personally

bloodlines carry through the fathers, right? so for Jesus to be the son, He had to have the blood of the Father. the Jewish Messiah had to be born of a virgin fior this purpose. so the essense of God known as Jesus was put inside of a soul, and then put inside of a body. a body needs to have a spirit and soul to be 100% human. Jesus had both. therefore, 100% man.

I hope that helps

Answer 3

Here is the Trinity from my understanding:

Father: Creator of all things, the power

Son: The word of god and gift to humanity (embodied in jesus (that is what they mean by son...he was created by god with no other father as a representative of god's word in man)

Holy Spirit: The will, or love of god. The "personality" of god.

The trinity is not 3 entities that can like go have coffee together. It is also not a direct part of the gosples.

It is a representation to better understand god through his: creation(father), his word (son),goodness(holy spirit).

Answer 4

According to the trinity doctrine:

1. There are said to be three divine persons—the Father, the Son, and the holy spirit—in the Godhead.

2. Each of these separate persons is said to be eternal, none coming before or after the other in time.

3. Each is said to be almighty, with none greater or lesser than the other.

4. Each is said to be omniscient, knowing all things.

5. Each is said to be true God.

6. However, it is said that there are not three Gods but only one God.

I invite you to search the Bible, especially the 27 books of the Christian Greek Scriptures, to see for yourself if Jesus and his disciples taught a Trinity. As you search, ask yourself:

1. Can I find any scripture that mentions “Trinity”?

2. Can I find any scripture that says that God is made up of three distinct persons, Father, Son, and holy spirit, but that the three are only one God?

3. Can I find any scripture that says that the Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom?

Search as you may, you will not find one scripture that uses the word Trinity, nor will you find any that says that Father, Son, and holy spirit are equal in all ways, such as in eternity, power, position, and wisdom. Not even a single scripture says that the Son is equal to the Father in those ways—and if there were such a scripture, it would establish not a Trinity but at most a “duality.” Nowhere does the Bible equate the holy spirit with the Father.

Regarding the historical facts on this matter, The New Encyclopædia Britannica states:

“Neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament . . .

“The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . .

“It was not until the 4th century that the distinctness of the three and their unity were brought together in a single orthodox doctrine of one essence and three persons.”10

The New Catholic Encyclopedia makes a similar statement regarding the origin of the Trinity:

“There is the recognition on the part of exegetes and Biblical theologians, including a constantly growing number of Roman Catholics, that one should not speak of Trinitarianism in the New Testament without serious qualification. There is also the closely parallel recognition on the part of historians of dogma and systematic theologians that when one does speak of an unqualified Trinitarianism, one has moved from the period of Christian origins to, say, the last quadrant of the 4th century. It was only then that what might be called the definitive Trinitarian dogma ‘one God in three Persons’ became thoroughly assimilated into Christian life and thought. . . .

“The formula itself does not reflect the immediate consciousness of the period of origins; it was the product of 3 centuries of doctrinal development.

Answer 5

Nowhere in the Bible does it say ANYTHING about the trinitarian theory. Jesus said in the Bible, " I and my Father are one." There are many other examples in the Bible but I don't have the time to list them all. I'm runnin' kinda late.

But anyway, are you going to base your faith in Billy Graham or what the Bible really says. It says that Jesus is God, manifested in the flesh. Jesus is fully man and fully God who has all power. Jesus could have gotten off that cross in a heart beat and could've sent all his angels down here to have a smackdown and wipe us off the face of the earth, but he knew this was the only way to cover the sins of man.

I hope this helps. Look for my answer to the atheist guys question of "who knows any songs to sing while I'm in hell" and it might answer your question a little more.

-childofGod

Answer 6

Yes. Even in the gospels, he equated himself with God. He said with His own words, "When you have seen the Son, then have you seen the Father."

Go to christianapologetics.com

Do not listen to this follower of the false prophet Joseph Smith just above me.
God was never a man on another planet, nor will you ever be a god, as their ridiculous beliefs say. God was a man. Here on earth. His name was Jesus.

Answer 7

The easiest way for me to explain it is take the basic particle of creation, the atom. It is found in all living and non living things. We all know that the atom is singular in its identity, but it is composed of 3 parts (neutron, proton, electron) or in the area of the Trinity; God (is one) but made up of 3 parts (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) I think Trinity is arrived at because much of what Jesus said relied on these three components and we know of God's nature when, in Genesis, he says 'Let US make man in OUR own image.

Answer 8

Wow. There's alot here to touch upon. First of all, you're not alone. This question has bothered people for millennium now, and has been answered by everyone from Billy Graham to Sts. Patrick and Augustine, all of whom are much smarter and holier than me. (So are your average rocks though) And I agree with you, faith for the sake of faith is just annoying when you have a genuine problem/question. Anywho, God bless me and here we go.

In the garden, Jesus didn't pray to Himself, He prayed to His Father, "Father, if it be Your Will...." This isn't the first or last time He makes reference to God above as His Father, the Gospel of John often talks about God as Father. His holiness is never in doubt throughout the Gospels, so what differentiates Jesus from a great prophet, and what makes him fully man and fully God? I love the Gospel of John, so my answers will be from there, mostly:

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came to be through him, and without him nothing came to be. What came to be through him was life, and this life was the light of the human race; the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

This is the beginning of John's gospel, and illustrates how Jesus was with God from the very beginning, but also that He WAS God from the very beginning. Furthermore, in John 14:10 and 11, Jesus clearly states that He is in the Father and the Father is in Him. In the Catechism of the Catholic Church, we more clearly have an answer than any rambling I could give you:
At the time appointed by God, the only Son of the Father, the eternal Word, that is, the Word and substantial Image of the Father, became incarnate; without losing his divine nature he has assumed human nature.
Jesus Christ is true God and true man, in the unity of his divine person; for this reason he is the one and only mediator between God and men.
Jesus Christ possesses two natures, one divine and the other human, not confused, but united in the one person of God's Son.
Christ, being true God and true man, has a human intellect and will, perfectly attuned and subject to his divine intellect and divine will, which he has in common with the Father and the Holy Spirit. (CCC 479-482)

If God is unchanging, and eternal, as St. Augustine puts forth in his book, Confessions, then God can not be just God, He is Father and Son. That gives us a duality, now we need one more piece, and what a piece the Holy Spirit is.

For my answer on that, I ask you to turn to Isaiah 11. Isaiah 11:

There shall come forth a shoot from the stump of Jesse,
and a branch shall grow out of his roots.
And the Spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him,
the spirit of wisdom and understanding,
the spirit of counsel and might,
the spirit of knowledge and the fear of the LORD

What Spirit of the Lord? Well obviously, the Holy Spirit. But for proof of this, we turn to St. Paul, in his writings to the Corinthians:No one can say Jesus is Lord, except by the Holy Spirit. So obviously, they are united in some way, because one can not make mention of Jesus's sovereignty except by the Holy Spirit? Furthermore, in the same book "searches everything, even the depths of God. . . . No one comprehends the thoughts of God, except the Spirit of God." This here is proof that God and Spirit and are one. If God and Spirit are one, and Jesus and God are one, then Jesus, God and Spirit are one.

Or, for a more simplistic approach, you can just look at a shamrock: three leaves, all part of one plant. It worked for St. Patrick.

I hope that any or all of this helps in some way. I really do. But do not give up searching and asking. I'll pray for you, please pray for me and all of our fellow Christians, as well as all non Christians. Peace and joy to you and yours.

Answer 9

In the hebrew of the day, 'son of' meant '-like.' E.g. a son of peace was peaceful. So the son of God was god-like. There have been many sons of god, the bible makes this clear. Jesus was not literally the son of god, [no-one is] but this metaphor is used to describe someone who conforms totally to teh will of the Father.

Answer 10

im a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (or "Mormon"), and we believe that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are 3 separate and distinct beings. We have 13 Articles of Faith, and the 1st says: "We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost." they are three separate beings. when it says that they are one, its saying they are one in purpose, not one literally. and Christ is God's literal son. its been said that "as man now is, God once was, and as God now is, man may become". that's not exact wording, but its close. God once was a man, like we are now, on some other planet in some other glaxy. he had a son, who is Jesus Christ. and after his life there, he became a God over us. and we can become a God and have our own spirit children as he does now. so when Christ came to the earth, he was part man, part god. but he never was the God. they're different people.
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