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"So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep." "His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them." Job 14:12, 21.

Why are there saints etc etc

2007-06-04 01:41:15 · 16 answers · asked by Gezza D 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Bible says that we sleep when we die, our thoughts cease to exist, and that we will be resurrected at a point in the future. If we just lived, without a resurrection, what would be the point of living, going thru all the trials we've endured, and the lessons we've learned?
"Why are there saints etc etc ???" The Bible tells us that God's saints are His special people, chosen by Him, and will be in the first resurrection. They are NOT, as some religions would have you believe, living now. They are either dead, in the grave, with no thoughts, or they may be living now, only known to God, by their hearts, who truly serve God.
It's a subject that's really too long to go into here, but you can try various websites or Bible studies, to search for your answers. You'll get many differing interpretations on this forum, so go straight to the Bible
God Bless you!

2007-06-04 01:59:00 · answer #1 · answered by JoJoCieCie 5 · 1 0

When the Bible says a person is “sleeping” in relation to death (Luke 8:52; 1 Corinthians 15:6), it does not mean literal “sleep.” Sleeping is just a way to describe death because a dead body appears to be sleeping. The Bible tells us that the instant you die, you are taken to heaven or Hell based on whether you had received Christ as your Savior or not. For believers, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord (2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). For unbelievers, death means everlasting punishment in Hell (Luke 16:22-23). The concept of “soul sleep” is not a Biblical doctrine. The moment we die, we face the judgment of God (Hebrews 9:27). Until the resurrection, though, there is currently a temporary heaven “Paradise” (Luke 23:43; 2 Corinthians 12:4) and Hell “Hades” (Revelation 1:18; 20:13-14).



In a sense, a person’s body is “sleeping” while their soul is in Paradise or Hades. This body is then “awoken” and transformed into the eternal body a person will possess for eternity. These eternal bodies is what we possess for all of eternity, whether we are in heaven or Hell. Those who were in Paradise will be sent to the New Heavens and New Earth (Revelation 21:1). Those who were in Hades will be thrown into the lake of fire. (Revelation 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people - based entirely on whether a person had trusted Jesus Christ alone for the salvation of their sins.

Recommended Resource: What the Bible Says about Heaven & Eternity by Ice & Demy.

2007-06-04 10:08:24 · answer #2 · answered by Freedom 7 · 0 0

One scripture does not prove anything. You must read several to understand the full meanings of each concept.

Matt 27:52-53 says "And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, And came out of the graves after his [Jesus Christ's] resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared to many."

Acts 26:8 "Why should it be thought a thing incredible with you, that God should raise the dead?"

Acts 8:11 "...he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken [give life to] your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you."

Job 19:26 "And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God"

It is a good thing to use a concordance to find all scriptures on a subject to find out what God REALLY said, instead of picking one scripture to prove something that may or may not be true.

One thing that Atheists are right about: One scripture standing alone can bring more confusion than light.

2007-06-04 08:59:23 · answer #3 · answered by Free To Be Me 6 · 0 0

Check these links:
http://bythebible.page.tl/Judgment-%26-Sheol.htm
http://bythebible.page.tl/Resurrection-When-f-.htm
http://bythebible.page.tl/Rev-20-d-11_15.htm
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It is John chapter three again. The faithful get the gift of eternal life. The unbelievers get eternal sleep in death -- but without suffering as some teach.

Those that haven't for some reason (time they lived, mental retardation, etc) been given the chance to choose between serving God or not, will if they are unrighteous but not wicked receive a resurrection of judgment. This new life gives them the chance to accept or to deny serving God.
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This next scripture demonstrates the above clearly, but it takes a bit of meditation to get the points:

Romans 2:12-16 For as many as have sinned without law shall perish also without law; and as many as have sinned under law shall be judged by law, 13(for not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified. 14For when those of the nations, which have no law, practise by nature the things of the law, these, having no law, are a law to themselves; 15who shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts accusing or else excusing themselves between themselves;) 16in the day when God shall judge the secrets of men, according to my glad tidings, by Jesus Christ.
(Darby)

A look at the God's Kingdom page also is educational:
http://bythebible.page.tl/God-h-s-Kingdom.htm

2007-06-04 09:25:56 · answer #4 · answered by Fuzzy 7 · 1 0

You should not ask an open question like this then repeat
a verse of the bible..........there are different belief systems and not all are based in biblical teachings. This is a question
regarding a Christian belief then...
But -To answer your highlighted "general" question.
The Soul lives through eternity.....till it enlightens to a point
that it returns to the source of creation. On this planet
the soul houses itself in the physical matter in a body and the
body dies or has a death but the soul continues to exist and eventually incarnates again to continue the learning process
toward enlightenment.

2007-06-04 08:57:29 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

Job is talking about the physical body that our souls inhabit. 2 Corinthians 5:8 tells us that to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. Your soul will live on somewhere for all eternity. Your body will not rise again until the 2nd comming of Christ.

2007-06-04 08:54:13 · answer #6 · answered by wendy08010 6 · 0 1

Most people in the Old Testament didn't believe there was an afterlife. The New Testament answer can be found in John 14:1-3.

2007-06-04 08:48:20 · answer #7 · answered by Fish <>< 7 · 0 2

a parable. think of your body as a pail of water. the pail is your physical being( skin, bones etc.). the water is your soul and spirit. the pail can be destroyed but not the water. pour it in the ocean it becomes a part of the ocean. pour it on the ground and it becomes nourishment for theground and plants. heat it and it's steam, freeze it and it's ice. so your soul becomes a part of something we no nothing about, but will someday.

2007-06-04 09:04:49 · answer #8 · answered by snitchel 2 · 0 0

No, no life after death. We are souls, nothing lives beside us.

Can the human soul die?

Ezek. 18:4: “Look! All the souls—to me they belong. As the soul of the father so likewise the soul of the son—to me they belong. The soul* that is sinning—it itself will die.” (*Hebrew reads “the ne′phesh.” KJ, AS, RS, NE, and Dy render it “the soul.” Some translations say “the man” or “the person.”)

Matt. 10:28: “Do not become fearful of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul [or, “life”]; but rather be in fear of him that can destroy both soul* and body in Gehenna.” (*Greek has the accusative case of psy·khe′. KJ, AS, RS, NE, TEV, Dy, JB, and NAB all render it “soul.”)

Acts 3:23: “Indeed, any soul [Greek, psy·khe′] that does not listen to that Prophet will be completely destroyed from among the people.”

The link bellow has the exact answer to your question and it is based in the question in the book of Job.

2007-06-04 08:49:06 · answer #9 · answered by sxanthop 4 · 0 2

The verse you quoted means that the dead will not rise until the apocalypse described in Revelations comes to pass.

2007-06-04 09:25:36 · answer #10 · answered by tertiahibernica 3 · 0 0

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