How do you explain the knowledge and undeniable influence on individuals, societies, and civilizations?

Question

of the series of universal educators known to history as Krishna (3228-3100 BCE, Hindu); Abraham (1800s BCE, Father/Patriarch of monotheism, possibly Sabean); Moses (1400 BCE, Jewish); Zoroaster/Zarathustra/Zarathus... (1000 BCE, Zoroastrian/Parsi); The Buddha, Siddhartha Gautama ( 566 BCE, Buddhist), Jesus (8/2-29/36 BCE/CE, Christian); Muhammad (570-632 CE, Islam); the Bab/The Gate (1819-1850 CE, Bab’i); and Baha’u’llah/Glory of God (1817-1892, Baha’i)? None of them had a formal or scholarly education; and they themselves claimed that their knowledge was innate, different from the generality of humankind, not from themselves, but from an unknown realm. Even those who chose not to accept the religious system established upon their teachings nevertheless recognized their uncontestable greatness, genius, total lack of self-interest, and influence, which is unlike any other historical figures’.

We whose knowledge relies and is dependent upon teachers more knowledgeable than us in science, philosophy, math, etc., recognize and revere the geniuses within those fields of endeavor. Why do we not apply the same criteria and give credit where credit is due to the geniuses in the fields of personal, social/political (I don’t mean partisan politics) development, i.e., the progenitors of an ever-advancing civilization?

Answer 1

True experiences of the power that is the Universe change people, like those you listed, from self-centered people into people infused with knowledge, power and authority that even they struggle to understand or explain. Each of them reached a point where they were unwilling to accept any authority, teacher, professor, dictator or ruler, except the one true power that is both the creator and the creation. They taught what bits of the truth they found to those who were willing to learn. Unfortunately, after them many people attempted to teach these truths who had not experienced them, and up sprang religions. Each of us can experience what these people did, and that is the most powerful lesson that each of them taught.

Answer 2

We always seem to have a 'prerequisite' on estimating a person's intelligence or knowledge by the number of diplomas that hang on their wall. Some people who have a wall full of diplomas are STILL dumber than a brick. Geniuses have come and gone that the world will never know. Einstein was kicked out of school because he was 'unteachable'. He was an idiot. He couldn't comb his hair or tie his shoes, but he was light-years ahead of the rest of the crowd.
Moses probably did have a formal education, being that he was raised in the house of Pharaoh, but still was 'slow of speech' (probably stuttered). He was still a genius.
Being a follower of Jesus, I am somewhat biased towards others.
Jesus could 'read' the human soul. He was a genius of epic proportions, and hit a chord in every receptive humans heart.
As far as people calling him a 'myth', better throw away your calender, we set TIME by his birth date. 2007, after WHAT?

Answer 3

There is more knowledge and influence from the humanistic portion of society. Religious leaders are remembered more in name, but they inevitably cause mass group followings that turn their religious ferver to tyranny, which is not that much of a turn. When you see good being done within religions, it is usually the lesser known people who really have more of a humanitarian leaning, and who would regardless of their religious indoctrination.

For a more eloquent review of the contributions of the various faiths, read "God is Not Great" by Christopher Hitchens.

Answer 4

I know of these GREAT books you can read it has a lot of answers. You sound very intelligent and I think you would enjoy a man of the name Hugh Nibley....his books are way over my head sometimes... but what I do understand out of them is priceless....anyway the book or series of books are The First Thousand years, The Third Thousand Years, and The Forth Thousand Years by W. Cleon Skousen. I highly recommend them.

Answer 5

I think that this society is being dominated by the females. Now they don't fight much except maybe in Israel. Yet woman moan and cry more and ask for assistance more. Gossip will start a war but men fighting will win it now matter what the side. U figure

Answer 6

Our Creator does not change. But we do. And being emotional beings, from one extreme to the other!
Being Draconian in our Laws, (puttng everyone to death for anything). Or anything goes, (modern "liberated" society).
Our Creator has sent messengers in all times, and in all cultures. To help bring some balance into our lives.
It used to bug me when people said Krishna was Christ. Until I realized they don't mean he was the same spirit that lived as Jesus Christ. But that all
beings who work to the good are Christ. Or part of the Christ Consciousness. As Christ is the unifying of our Creators own body. All our spirits being a spark of the Light that our Creator is.
"As the body has many members, and those members being many are one body, so is CHRIST!"

Answer 7

Simple. People are so prideful, that they think they can determine what is truth and what is not, just from their own limited knowledge. Amazing arrogance. Our laws are based on religious foundations. The Bible first said the world was round, and that the land was all in one place in the beginning. Although that is where we got this information, many still believe that secular sources were responsible for this knowledge. Pride, pure and simple. The mindset is, "There cannot possibly be anyone higher than me."

Answer 8

They are recognized and respected men, not "tools of God" as people exploit for the benefit of their own religion.

Answer 9

You mean besides the fact that they are all mythological persons.