If Jesus was the arch angel Michael then why would he come to earth and say he was GOD? Was he??

Question

Was he just the head angel so to speak? If you believe that Jesus was the arch angel Michael than you don't believe in the Trinity? Please help me out with this one....

Answer 1

Jesus wasn't Michael. Jesus was Jesus.

Answer 2

The word "Arch Angel" does not mean that He is an Angel; it means He is the head or leader of the Angelic host.

Does Christ or Michael ever say that they are God?

In John 14 you will find that Christ said that it was not him who spoke and did the works that everyone saw and heard but His Father who was in Heaven.
In Hebrew 1 you find that Christ “INHERITED” a name that is above all others and around verse 7 same chapter you find that His Father calls Him by that Name “God”. This does not mean that He is God but has the same name as God; being the “Only Begotten Son” this makes sense.

In Daniel 12:1 Michael will stand up for the people in the last days, could an Angel stand up for Gods people?

In Daniel the story of the golden statute and Daniels three friends who was in the furnace with the three?

In all the letters of John in His greetings to the churches Paul never greets anyone in the name of the Holy Spirit, why?

Who raised Christ from the grave? Himself? No it was the Father, Romans 6:4, Romans 19:9 and others teaches that it was the Father. If Christ was God and the Bible teaches that God cannot die then, could Christ not have raised Himself, why did the Father have to raise Him? Or is it that Christ was really dead as the Bible teaches?

The Bible teaches that God cannot be tempted, yet Christ was tempted in always as we are. If He where god is that possible?

In Isaiah chapters 44 and 45, you will find that God (the Father) plainly states that there is NO OTHER GOD but Himself.
The first Commandment also states to have No other God before Him.

Look at Mark 13:32 tells us that even the Son (Jesus) does not know the time of His return. Now if he were God then he would know would He not?

Another question then we must ask is this, Does Christ have a God? John 20:17, tells use that he does. So if Christ has a God and it is the same God that we have then why does a god need a god?

Why would Paul teach us that the ONLY God that we have is the Father 1 Cor. 8:6?

The doctrine of the trinity is not Biblical and has so many wholes in it that it amazes me people still hold to it.

The Trinity is a pagan teaching and it goes all the way back to the great city of Babylon. Every pagan religion has its “trinity” and Christianity adopted this satanic teaching in the 3rd and 4th centuries.
The Catholic Church, by the way this is suppose to be the (church of Christ), would put to death anyone who taught against the “trinity”. Is there scripture for putting people to death for not believing in the trinity? Is this Christ like?

The Trinitarians attack people even today verbally if any one talks against this doctrine, why is this?

I hope that this helps

Peace and Grace in the Name of the Father and His Son
David

Answer 3

To say that Jesus was some type of angel, it would negate the Contract between humans and GOD.
The reason, according to the Bible, that we must die, is that we broke our covenant with God when Adam ate the apple.
Thus the penalty for breaking the contract is to die both physically and spiritually.
Just like in a business contract, if one of the parties defaults on a loan or an service agreed upon, then one of the parties must face litigation charges in court. After the court proceeding are finished, the looser must PAY the cost. or the winner can forgive the cost. IN the court documents there is no mention of a stranger agreeing to pay the penalties. The documents will state that the defendant must make restitution. But if the Plaintiff chooses to forgive the defendant, then that is up to the plaintiff and the defendant to work out, not lucky angel in the audience. However, if the Plaintiff were to die before restitution was paid, wouldn't that excuse the defendant? This has nothing to do with a stranger in the audience.

Answer 4

I'm sorry, where did Jesus say "I am God"?

The best you can get is that people say the NT 'Hints' that Jesus is God.

It is amazing how the most important teaching in the bible according to trinitarians, is only hinted at.

Where as you can find hundreds of verses that prove Jesus is not God, nor is equal to the Father.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

There is more evidence that Jesus is God's First Born, an image of God, the beginning of the creation by God.

Jesus is a might god, a powerful creature, but nowhere does the bible state that Jesus is equal to his Father Jehovah.

Answer 5

Michael the Archangel is no other than the only begotten son of God, now Jesus Christ. That Jehovah directly created only one thing, Michael the arch angel and that Michael created all other things." (United in Worship p.29)
Is Jesus Christ the created archangel Michael?

Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe God came from heaven to earth, yet they cannot deny someone came down. So they shift the identity of the one who ascended to an arch angel, Michael. Jesus is supposedly Michael because his name means ‘who is like God. "It proves Michael the archangel is no other than the only begotten son of God, now Jesus Christ. The very name Michael means who is like God and indicates Jehovah God is without like or equal." (New Heavens and New Earth pg.30-31). Jesus is actually the incarnation of Michael the Arch angel and resumed the name when he ascended into heaven ( ibid. pg.30 Your will be done on earth pg.316 )

If one investigates church history not even the Arians who started the idea Jesus was a created being with divine qualities believed he was an angel. No one in the church history (at least of any influence, good or bad) has ever presented Jesus as Michael the arch angel.


Now, from my heart God is God. He wants you to accept him and follow him in your everyday life. To me, no matter what
ANYONE says, He is my Angel, and he is God
May God be with you an yours
Sablelulu -Marylou

Answer 6

Like Matt said, Jesus and Michael are two different "people". Jesus is God, Michael is a created being (i.e. Angel) and Commander of the Armies of the Lord.

Answer 7

Michael is an "Arch Angel", and yes I guess you could say he is the Head angel...he speaks for God, and delivers Gods messages...

Answer 8

Jesus never said he was God. At John 10:36, he said he was God's Son.

The name “Michael” means “Who Is Like God?” thus indicating that this foremost prince upholds Jehovah’s sovereignty. Since Michael is also a champion of God’s people, we have reason to identify him with the unnamed angel that God sent ahead of the Israelites hundreds of years before: “Here I am sending an angel ahead of you to keep you on the road and to bring you into the place that I have prepared. Watch yourself because of him and obey his voice. Do not behave rebelliously against him, for he will not pardon your transgression; because my name is within him.”—Exodus 23:20, 21.

It is logical to conclude that this was the angel that delivered so many important communications to God’s people. (Acts 7:30, 35; Judges 2:1-3) He had full authority from God to act in His name, just as kings in ancient times entrusted their seal rings to reliable subjects, empowering them to act in their name.—Exodus 3:2, 3; 4:10.

Is there anything here to make us believe that Michael and Jesus Christ are the same person? Well, Jesus is called “the Word.” (John 1:1) He is God’s spokesman. This special angelic messenger, too, was clearly God’s chief spokesman to the Israelites.

Answer 9

Michael = Who Is Like God?
Jesus = Jehovah is Salvation (or Jehovah is My Salvation, can't remember exactly)
Messsiah/Christ = Anointed One
Archangel = Head or Chief of Angels

God assigns names to his servants based on the capacities in which they serve. We see examples of this when Abram changed to Abraham, Sarai to Sarah, Jacob to Israel, etc. Michael is the chief of angels and the primary champion of Jehovah's sovereignty. He takes the lead in declaring Jehovah's purpose and righteousness. He is fittingly referred to as the Word. Jesus is the name that he took when he was born as a human on the earth, because he came to preach salvation and also sacrifice himself so that we might be saved.

(Sidenote:Jesus NEVER said he was God.
He did? Show me where he said that in the Bible... I'll wait.)

Okay, so there's no specific passage in the Bible that says "Michael the archangel and Jesus Christ are one and the same, the exact same being". Granted. However, does anybody remember this from elementary school logic?:
If Jimmy is the chief of police
and the chief of poice is the only one who wears an all black uniform
and Chief Smith is wearing an all black uniform
it is logical to conclude that Chief Smith (who is wearing the black uni is also known as Jimmy, and he is the chief of police).

Archangel is never used in the plural sense in the Bible. Michael is named as the chief of the angels, but so is Jesus. Both of their roles are TERRIBLY similar. Are we to conclude that Jehovah has at least two armies in heaven, under the command of at least two chiefs???

Jesus is named as the one given the power to resurrect the dead, but in Daniel 12:1-3 it says that Michael will stand up in behalf of his people and those sleeping in the ground of dust will awaken (meaning that the dead will rise).

Michael
Jesus

Tom-AY-Toe, To-MAH-To.

Answer 10

that's right Jesus is Jesus & Michael is Michael

you can read about Archangel --Michael in
theses verses of the bible :

Jude 9, Daniel 10:13, 21, 12:1, & Rev. 12:7