Muslims, Was the Bible ever the word of Allah?

Question

Ismail, the Bible thatw as available at the time fo the Qu'ran is the Bible we have now and the Qu'ran says it is the word of Allah and his word can not be changed.
Consider Isaiah 53 that fortells of the Messiah and how he will atone for sin
cosnider Christ agreed with this scripture.
Consider this book of Isiah we have found in the dead sea scrolls and they are saying theya re the same as today and they wre before Christ was born 250 years..
Why is the Qu'ran not in agreement wiht the word of God?

Punter the good news was the atonement ..which means man can now be brought to God's righteouness through the atonement. Please explain how Isaiah 800 BC taught the Messiah would atone for sin and Chrsit agreed with Isaiah 53? Why is the Quran ageeeing with this and saying also Christ is not the son of God who atones for sin? Allah says his word coan not be changed...Yet Allah does not agree with his own word.

The verse Isiah 53:10 explains who his seed are, thsoe who are saved by him.
Christ did teach that God could bring forth children of the promise from a rock.
Jesus is the rock that brings forth children of the promise by faith. We are the spiritual children of God by Faith. Abraham was the Father of the physical promise. Jesus brings the fufillment of that promise spiritually.

Answer 1

Hi djmantx
Just one or two things in response to your anwers.

In the Quran Allah speaks of the Prophets to bring the message to all mankind.
If the Bible was the word of Allah it would be in agreement with the Prophets.
“If there arises among you a prophet or a dreamer of dreams, and he gives you a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder comes to pass, of which he spoke to you, saying, ‘Let us go after other gods’—which you have not known—‘and let us serve them,’ you shall not listen to the words of that prophet or that dreamer of dreams, for the LORD your God is testing you to know whether you love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. You shall walk after the LORD your God and fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice; you shall serve Him and hold fast to Him. Deuteronomy 13:1-4

Earlier Prophets are confirmed by later prophets

Prophets would confirm the words of previous revelations, Joshua affirmed the words of Moses(Joshua 1:7), Isaiah affirmed David as a prophet and progeneter of the Messiah (Isaiah 9:7), Jeremiah the words of Samuel (Jeremiah 15:1), Daniel affirmed the words of Jeremiah (Daniel 9:2), Ezekiel and Jesus affirmed the words of Daniel, (Ezekiel 28:3, Matthew 24:15), Zechariah of previous prophets. The prophets who spoke for God, whose words were affirmed by signs and wonders, established the Jewish canon

The Quran was written by Men
During Mohammad’s life the revelations were not collected into one collection but were scattered, written on palm-leaf stalks, thin white stones bones and the memory of men. In the year 633, after the death of Mohammad, during the reign (Caliphate)[9] of Abu Bakr (A.D. 632-633) the Muslims were involved in the battle of Yamamah[10], where many of the hafiz died on the battlefield. The hafiz, Muslims who knew the words of Muhammad by heart, were an important resource for Muslims, because they kept the Quran. Their death brought concern the Quran could fade away if those who memorized it died. Zaid bin Thabit was Mohammed’s scribe, who was appointed to the task of collecting the scattered Surahs.

Aramaic was the common language of the Middle-East from the 8th century BC till the 4th century BC, after it was replaced by the Koine Greek following the conquest of Alexander the Great.
Koine means common and was the common Greek language spoken from 4th century BC to the 6th century AD.

Answer 2

Most of Muslims believe that the Bible today is not exactly the same 100% as the original Bible.
For instance, we all know that Jesus spoke in Aramaic, yet the oldest gospels available are in Greek. So, the Bible today is just a translation of Jesus' words, and sometimes certain words can not be translated to other language. and maybe some authors could make such a mistranslations.

You said that Isaiah 53 referring to Jesus, yet it is written:
"He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days"
Does Jesus have an offspring? Of course he has, if you believe in "Da Vinci's Code"
Jesus did not have any biological children. The Hebrew word zerah (seed) used in Isaiah 53:10 can only refer to biological offspring!

Last but not least, you must remember that Jesus was sent just to the lost sheep of Israel, and not for all mankind. And also you have to remember that Isaiah is a prophet for the Jews only (and not for entire mankind)
Say, Jesus had to atone for sins; I guess he only atoned for just the sins of the lost people of Israel. After all, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners."

Answer 3

What are Original scriptures
It should be mentioned that Muslims must believe in all Divine scriptures in their original form, their Prophets and making no distinction between them: The Suhuf (Abraham); Torah (Moses); Psalms (David); Gospel - or the Injeel (Jesus); and the Quran (Muhammad). It is clearly stated in the Quran 3:3 that Allah sent down the Torah and the Gospel. However, none of these scriptures remains in its original form now, except the Quran, which was sent for all mankind everywhere and for all times.

Bible is word of third party human hands
Quran was sent to mankind, as mentioned in 18:4-5 it was sent to warn the Christians of a terrible punishment from God if they cease not in saying:
"Allah has begotten a son."
Muslims sincerely believe that everything Jesus (May the peace and blessing of Allah be upon him) preached was from God; the Gospel (Injeel): The "good news" and the guidance of God for the Children of Israel. There is no place mentioned in the present four Gospels that Jesus wrote a single word of his Gospel, nor is it mentioned that Jesus instructed anyone to do so. What passes off, as the "Gospels" today are the works of third party human hands. The Quran 2:79 says:
"And woe to those who write the book with their own hands and they say: "This is from Allah (God)." To traffic with it for a miserable price! So woe to them for what their hands do write, and woe to them for what they earn thereby!"

Answer 4

We believe 'Injeel-The Gospel' was revealed to Jesus Christ in truth from God Almighty,. But current Bible is human, though some, out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, have denied this. Those books have passed through the minds of men, are written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men, and bear in their style the characteristics of men..

The Bible went on revision after revision. The word of God will be perfect and free from any errors. Honestly asking, Is today's Bible free from errors- http://www.jamaat.net/bible/bible1-3.htm...
http://www.jamaat.net/bible/awakearticle...
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