Muslims, Can Allah's word be changed?

Question

114. Say: "Shall I seek for judge other than Allah. - when He it is Who hath sent unto you the Book, explained in detail." They know full well, to whom We have given the Book, that it hath been sent down from thy Lord in truth. Never be then of those who doubt.

115. The word of thy Lord doth find its fulfilment in truth and in justice: None can change His words: for He is the one who heareth and knoweth all.

tuberoot. Not where I was going but excellent none the less!

Manhatten girl you must consider Allah a liar, If you think his only word is the Qu'ran. Allah also cliams the books of Moses and Psalms and the Gospel.
So you msut agree no mna has changed htese or you think Allah is a liar.

Red Dragon and Cool Red, The Bible is not the word of Allah or It is not corrupt?
Why is the Qu'ran not in agreement with the other word of Allah if no one can change his word?

Dragon, It has no contradictions? Allah handed the word to Moses and his word can not be changed...Now It doesnt agreew ith the Qu'ran...please explain.

bufareed I take it you surely believe Christ is the Son of God who did atone for sin it is definitely the Word of God.

Ismail...You do not believe in the written word of Allah...Let me show you that in 6:114 and 115 Allah is refering to his written word which you say is penned by man...Was the book of Moses not the word of Allah?
Allah says the book and refers to it as his word and says his word can not be changed...You are not in agreement with Allah.

adamjer, consider for a moment that Allah gave his word to Moses as he says he did...then that word became corrupt by man...first Allah says that can't happen...second consider that it did happen...If Allah's written word can be corrupted then wouldn't a promise within his written word be worthless?
Cound a reasonable man consider that even the promise was corrupt if it too was his written word which Allah has already proved unworthy?

Manhatten is it hateful to agree with the Qu'ran that the word of God can not be changed? If this is true then the Qu'ran has a problem. If it is a lie than those who follow the Qu'ran have a problem.
These suras show there is definitely a problem with the Qu'ran it has to agree with the true word fo God...or it is a lie...this is not being hateful it is a simple fact.

byefareed These are not may words but Gods I am sorry that Allah is not ina greement with his own promises and his won word nor his own prophets too me it simply means the God that was before Muhammad is not the Allah of Islam..Which means the Allah of Islam was wrong when he refered to himself as the God of Abraham and it really proves that he is either a liar or non existant invention of Muhammad...Nopw if he says these are his words and they can't be changed...he sort of has to agree with them...Just has to be that way.

Humble, It is not my goal to deceive you.
I have indeed found the truth and it is my lord Jesus Christ. I do not believe that you have read the words of the prophets as Moses did teach the tree of life. Abraham did teach the lord would provide himslef a lamb. Jesus said he is the wya and the truth and the life, that he and the Father are one and that no man comes to the Father but through the son who did make a way for us through the atonement. John the baptist refered to him as the lamb of God. Isaiah said he would atone for our sin.
Muhammad did not agree with any of these and did teach a different god.
You say all prophets of God but the Quran is only ina greement with Muhammad and he was not in agreement with the God that was before him.

manhattengirl the true God who gave you life can righteously require it. We who dio not give life can not righteously require it.
We have the law fufilled we who have acepted the atonement.

manhttan please learn ot read and comprehend Jesus gave a parabale
19:11 11 And as they heard these things, he added and spake a parable, because he was nigh to Jerusalem, and because they thought that the kingdom of God should immediately appear.

Humble, you do misquote God's word Christ did not say his message was the same he said I and the Father are ONE. as in One God, No one comes to the Father but through the Son the same was taught by Moses and Abraham and Isaiah, the atonement was taught long before Christ fufilled the law.

humbe we as men are made in God's image and also are more than one part we are alos flesh and spirit and are taught the our flesh should be in submission to the spirit. Jesus is God in the flesh and is in submission to the Father.

Humble if you seek the truth fron the God that existed before Muhammad you will find that the god of Islam is not the God that existed before Muhammad.
the books of moses shows God's plan of salvation...Tree of life....Abraham's sacrifice where Abraham stated the lord will provide himself a lamb...Who is the lamb of your salvation id youa re a Muslim? Isaiah taught the Messiah would be this lamb...the Gospel has John the Baptist anouncing Christ as the lamb of God..Why is the Qu'ran not agreeing wiht God?

Humble if you seek the truth in the true word of God you will find the Quran agrees wiht Satan that sin does not cause death and God overlooks sin... It is not true God is a righteous God and the penalty dof sin is death. if the penalty was not paid by God it will be paid by man.

Answer 1

Hi djmantx
First of all you can see the Prophets mentioned in the Koran we know from the Bible, all carry the message on to mankind not only some choosen ppl.

And We bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob; each of them We guided; and Noah did We guide aforetime; and of his seed (We guided) David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the good. 85. And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias. Each one (of them) was of the righteous. 86. And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot. Each one of them did We prefer above (Our) creatures, Surah 6:84-86 (Pickthall)

163. Lo! We inspire thee as We inspired Noah and the prophets after him, as We inspired Abraham and Ishmael and Isaac and Jacob and the tribes, and Jesus and Job and Jonah and Aaron and Solomon, and as we imparted unto David the Psalms; 164. And messengers We have mentioned unto thee before and messengers We have not mentioned unto thee; and Allah spake directly unto Moses;

165. Messengers of good cheer and off warning, in order that mankind might have no argument against Allah after the messengers. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise. Surah 4:163-165 (Pickthall)

Muslims claim the message of these earlier prophets was lost, only to be restored by Mohammad, who is the last prophet.

Please note from the following verse Allah is saying: (in the time of Muhammed) here comes a Book c o n f i r m i n g what is w i t h them.... but calling them ppl without
f a i t h ...and not been able to r e c o g n i z e...

89 And when there comes to them a Book from Allah, confirming what is with them - although from of old they had prayed for victory against those without Faith - when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognized. They r e f u s e to believe in it but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith. Surah 2:87-89

The Koran is clearly not in agreement with the prophets of the Bible. If Allah tells us he gave them a message for all mankind, and tells his word will stand for all times, it would be impossible for ppl to have made a change.

The Gospel is in agreement with the OT Scripture. God's Word today is the Word his Prophets spoke and carried on till Jesus fulfilled them at the cross.
lg *Sternchen*

Answer 2

Dear, if all unbelievers come together they cannot change the Qoran, They have tried many times from the times of our prophet Mohamed PBUH, til today they failed and couln't even thing of it.

The Wisdom Allah made that is, They changed the previous books with lies, with that Allah wanted to bring a holy book that will never ever be changed.

Allah has said the following


9.We have without doubt sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption). 1944


1944The purity of the text of the Qur-an through fourteen centuries is a foretaste of the eternal care with which Allah's Truth is guarded through all ages. All corruptions, inventions, and accretions pass away, but Allah's pure and holy Truth will never suffer eclipse even though the whole world mocked at it and were bent on destroying it. (15.9)

There is no dought, that the bible has suffered for human intervention. But Allah Challenges you to change the Holy Quran, and as evedence, the Quran has not been changed for 14 hundred years. It does not mean that some people had not tried, They had had but never succeeded and they over get tired of it.

Also, dear to prove the correctness of the Quran, pls visit the below link.
http://www.islamreligion.com/category/34/


May Allah give you his GUIDANCE.

Amen

Answer 3

When religious texts are translated there is often varying interpretations. The same thing happened in old testament times,as exemplified by the pharasee's & saducee's. These interpretations lead to twisting of the meaning of the original message. Then comes the fanatical defense of the version of the belief followed by contention between the different factions. Funny how it usually ends up that all parties are wrong.

Answer 4

The Word of Allah shall never be changed. His message and promise remains same eternal. Gospel was revealed to Jesus Christ in truth from God Almighty. But current Bible is human, though some, out of zeal which is not according to knowledge, have denied this. Those books have passed through the minds of men, are written in the language of men, were penned by the hands of men, and bear in their style the characteristics of men..

The Bible went on revision after revision. The word of God will be perfect and free from any errors. Honestly asking, Is today's Bible free from errors- http://www.jamaat.net/bible/Bible1-3.html
http://www.jamaat.net/bible/AwakeArticle(1957).html

Answer 5

This is the only stable thing about Islam.. that its word hasn't been changed. Dont rely on other cheap books to give fake base to your arguments. Thank u.


EDIT: it seems you are a brain-washed believer. So it would be wastage of my time if I try to logic with you.
I can only suggest you to find another place to vent your un-ending hatred and aggression. Thanks again.


Even if you have knowledge... I pity you that even after reaching your seventh level.. you sound exactly like a 1st level troll trying to bash around.
Hope you will work on ur nature and thinking.. so that hatred wont become your introduction someday.


Edit: If you are that well-read.. then you must have read Bible too? Have you? Seriously...!

And what is this?

in Exodus 20, God says:
Thou shalt not kill

Then in Luke 19, Jesus says:
But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them - bring them here and kill them in front of me.

Answer 6

So just because it says so makes it true? Only gullible people believe in inerrant books (Jews, Christians, Muslims). All are convinced that only their dogma is true. This prime example of mass delusion is excellent evidence for the rest of us that the Abrahamic god doesn’t exist.

Answer 7

ALLAH: ALLAH is the proper name in Arabic for The One and Only God, The Creator and Sustainer of the universe. It is used by the Arab Christians and Jews for the God (Eloh-im in Hebrew; 'Allaha' in Aramaic, the mother tongue of Jesus, pbuh). And in Hinduism God is known as Allah in Rigveda bk2 hym1 v11, Rigveda bk3 hym30 v10, Rigveda bk9 hym67 v30. And there is a separate Upanishad named Alloh Upanishad. The word Allah does not have a plural or gender. Allah does not have any associate or partner, and He does not beget nor was He begotten.In the Holy Qur'aan it is said Al Baqara: 255 Allah! there is no Allah but He the living the Self-subsisting Eternal. No slumber can seize him nor sleep. His are all things in the heavens and on earth. Who is there can intercede in His presence except as He permitteth? He knoweth what (appeareth to his creatures as) before or after or behind them. Nor shall they compass aught of his knowledge except as He willeth. His throne doth extend over the heavens and the earth and He feeleth no fatigue in guarding and preserving them. For He is the Most High the Supreme (in glory). Aali Imran: 6 He it is Who shapes you in the wombs as He pleases. There is no god but He the Exalted in Might the Wise. An nisaa: 82

Answer 8

The word of Allah never changes, nor there are any changes in the Quraan. The holy book never contradicts itself.

Answer 9

Have you ever heard of the "Yemeni Fragments"?

http://cremesti.com/amalid/Islam/Yemeni_Ancient_Koranic_Texts.htm

It can and has been changed. I think that the one everyone is reading now is the changed one.

Answer 10

Up dated, see at the end please.

Dear " djmantx" it looks like you are seeking truth and it is a good sign of a true slave of God Almighty.

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http://www.islamreligion.com
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http://www.beconvinced.com

All Prophet of God Almighty including Prophet Noah, Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and Muhammad (Paece and blessings of God Almighty on all of them), preached one basic message, that is worship one God. Every thing moves arround this basic message.

Up dated:
Does it look ok if I say me and my father are same personality or if I say me and my father are one, because we are saying one thing or one message, do not take it literal.
An other place even in todays version of Bible it says:

i) "My Father is greater than I."
[The Bible, John 14:28]

(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]

When Jesus(pbuh) saying one place My father is greater them me that means different personalities, not one.
see more:

(ii) "My Father is greater than all."
[The Bible, John 10:29]


Worshipone God Only without partnership and any other assiciation with other entity.


First, the Prophet Adam, the naked man, the seedling, the beginning, the prototype: he "walked with God" (Genesis 2), was still undifferentiated from his environment. And yet, true to the human form, he was beginning to differentiate himself from his environment: by the act of naming.

Adam is the seed.

Secondly, there is the Prophet Noah. Noah represents the vessel of the seed, the carrier of the seed over the Deluge, through total obedience to the Will of God. The Ark of Noah represents the spermatozoon, that which is willed towards life.

Thirdly, there comes the Prophet Abraham. Abraham represents an attitude of surrender, the Hasid, the pious one. This attitude is expressed in the story of Abraham's son Isaac: from the child's miraculous birth while Abraham was well beyond a time when procreation came naturally (he was into his nineties), to the child's sacrifice (see Genesis chapters 17, 20-22). Abraham was commanded by God to kill the son God had given him. Abraham followed through, placing God above the survival of his very own race. In one version of the story, Abraham is stopped at the last moment from committing progenicide. In another version, he actually goes through with it, only to look up and see that it was not his son he had slain, but a wild beast. The point is the same: Father Abraham displayed perhaps the penultimate form of sacrifice in obedience with God's command.

This attitude of complete surrender is the seminal fluid.

Fourthly, there is Moses. The Tzaddik. The Law Giver. The archetypal Patriarch: stern, commanding, organizing. Moses is the channeler of the seed, through the Law, the Torah (lit., process). This Law is the phallus circumsized -- that is, consecrated.

The seed is planted. The seed takes root.

There is Advent. The Child of Man is born. Jesus Christ, son of Mary, representing the fruition of God's work in His creation Man. The humanization of the law. The Prophet of compassion, surrendering absolutely completely.


Oneness of God: Allah is One and the Only One. Allah is not two in one or three in one. This means that Islam rejects the idea of trinity or such a unity of God which implies more than one God in one.

Oneness of mankind: People are created equal in front of the Law of God. There is no superiority for one race over another. God made us of different colors, nationalities, languages and beliefs so as to test who is going to be better than others. No one can claim that he is better than others. It is only God Who knows who is better. It depends on piety and righteousness.

Oneness of Messengers and the Message: Muslims believe that God sent different messengers throughout the history of mankind. All came with the same message and the same teachings. It was the people who misunderstood and misinterpreted them.
Muslims believe in Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ismail, Jacob, Moses, David, Jesus, and Muhammad. The Prophets of Christianity and Judaism are indeed the Prophets of Islam.

Angels and the Day of Judgment: Muslims believe that there are unseen creatures such as angels created by God in the universe for special missions.
Muslims believe that there is a Day of Judgment when all people of the world throughout the history of mankind till the last day of life on earth, are to be brought for accounting, reward and punishment.

Innocence of Man at Birth: Muslim believe that people are born free of sin. It is only after they reach the age of puberty and it is only after they commit sins that they are to be charged for their mistakes. No one is responsible for or can take the responsibility for the sins of others. However, the door of forgiveness through true repentance is always open.

State and Religion: Muslims believe that Islam is a total and a complete way of life. It encompasses all aspects of life. As such, the teachings of Islam do not separate religion from politics. As a matter of fact, state and religion are under the obedience of Allah through the teachings of Islam. Hence, economic and social transactions, as well as educational and political systems are also part of the teachings of Islam.

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