since nobody really understood my last question... >_>
If there was a god who knew everything, why even bother creating the people destined for hell?
He knew they would end up in hell, yet he still created them...
Put yourself in god's shoes - You're about to create a person. Since you know everything, you look into this person's future, and see that they are destined to go to hell. You have the chance to save a living creature from eternal suffering, yet you still create them. Why? Are you really that sadistic?
2007-06-03 19:20:07 · 22 answers · asked by funaholic 5 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
i realize that "we make the choice", but an all knowing god would already know what choice we would make
2007-06-03 19:25:45 · update #1
The best answer you will get will be about “free will”, which of course is no answer and obviously the people who say that do not possess the intelligence to understand the problem and what you are actually asking.
2007-06-03 19:26:59 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
An all-knowing God already knows what choice we humans will make, but He, the all-knowing God, also knows that just because He knows the future does not mean He does not allow the future to change if a person's heart is changed. God designed every human being as an innocent life with no mistakes made. While God sees the future, He also knows that people alter the future every day by our actions. As our hearts and actions change, so does the course of future events. Nothing is predetermined in that sense. It is all a matter of personal choice and free will.
God might have advanced knowledge about how a person will choose, but because He knows that there exists the possibility that throughout the course of that person's life, their choices could change, God loves them enough to at least give them a chance at life and a chance for eternal bliss with Him because He desires for us all to make the right choice and to dwell with Him forever in Heaven. God is not sadistic. He is loving and merciful - so much so in fact that even when He sees the evil that a person is likely to do, He still creates that human being because He knows that the choices of others can have an impact on the choices that person will make and there is that chance the person can alter their own future that God knows exists for that person. It is a loving God that gives that person a second chance when He has advanced knowledge of what choices that person will make.
2007-06-04 02:34:29 · answer #2 · answered by Chimichanga to go please!! 6 · 1⤊ 3⤋
Yeah, I have thought about that too... so I know what you mean. If He only created people because He knew they would choose to be in heaven with Him, that wouldn't seem very fair. Also, how about the people who WILL choose to be in heaven with G-d, (assuming the choice scenario) It is PEOPLE that need to see that G-d is fair and just. G-d already knows He is. It's sort of like asking... "why did G-d put the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the garden east of Eden?" If He didn't, He would be manipulating Adam and Eve and taking the freedom of choice away from them... forcing them to choose what is right... forcing them to obey Him. That's not what G-d does, it's against His righteous nature to force or manipulate someone to love Him or to obey Him. As for what hell is... I believe you can be separated from G-d not only in the afterlife but in THIS life, if a person so chooses. This life can be hell, just as the afterlife can be hell, without G-d. He wants us to be able to see that, so He has to present us with both options.
2007-06-04 02:55:56 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
We existed before. This is just part of eternity, part of growing and learning.
The after life isn't as black and white as we try to make it. We have a loving father, who allows us to come to earth, have bodies, learn adn grow, make mistakes, and die.
Being and eternal, perfect, loving father, no unclean thing can dwell in his presence. So he provides a way for repentance.
Though god knows the end result, he always treats us based on who we are, on the things we've done. We already existed, and yes, he knew some of us would fail. But there is no predestination, he respects our agency, our greatest gift and freedom. Worse than failing is never being allowed to try.
Is that what you are actually asking for, a god who forces and coerces, who says, "Hey, I know you are going to make a mistake, so you can't go to school today, you can't leave your bed, you'll stub your toe, you going to get in a car accident some day, you can't get in your car". That is what you are saying a loving father would do, never let you live.
The afterlife isn't just heaven and hell. It could be said that anyone who doesn't make it all the way backto gods presence is in hell, but that doesn't mean the only two options are gods presence and outer darkness.
He loves his children, he wants them to be happy, should they act in a way that they cannot return to him, they could not endure his presence, he will put them away from him. He will put them somewhere where they can be as happy as they have allowed themselves to be.
Some few have so seperated themselves from happiness, from goodness, that they cannot abide any light, any life, and they will truly be put in hell.
The big thing here, he gives us choice. He loves us enough to let us make mistakes, and provides a way back. And he won't pre judge us, he won't say, "Sorry ethan, you suck, you don't get a life because, hey, Your not going to use it as well as mack your next door neighbor".
Such a loving god you ask for.
2007-06-04 02:31:27 · answer #4 · answered by riplikash 2 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Yeah I don't really understand that. What they say is that God creates everyone with free will and it is their choice if they believe in him or not. But obviously God would know before creating them what they are going to chose, and even if it's the wrong choice he still creates them.
Maybe it's the person's fault though. They had the choice to believe and they didn't take it. Who knows.
2007-06-04 02:25:29 · answer #5 · answered by WHATS UP! 4 · 2⤊ 1⤋
Okay, lets try this again! God does not predestine ANYONE to death. God is all-knowing so he KNOWS that a person will choose him or not. He knew when he created you if you would go to heaven or hell, based on YOUR choices. He gave us all a FREE WILL to choose Him, and those that don't will go to hell.
The Bible also says that God mourns for those that he knows will not choose Him.
Put yourself in Gods shoes, you create a person. You know that in that person's life they will choose a life of Atheism and you wish that they would not, but you give him a free will so you have to let him go. You give them a free will because if you MAKE him follow you he will be a robot, but if he chooses you he will be with you forever.
Make more sense?
2007-06-04 02:28:09 · answer #6 · answered by ronnad1975 2 · 0⤊ 2⤋
could just desolve people instead.just a painless dispersal.or set riders fron hell the task of preventing people from doing evil. Soul Collecters if you will or place them in earthly prison after bringing them to trial, or if say soldiers attempted rape of a woman during war place magical brand on for head in which actions shown to world, after being imprisoned the shame is there for all to see. have riders from Hell prevent torture or burnings at the stake of worshippers of God or any other , a sort of supernatural peace force comprised of Angels and Demons,and Devils whose job is not to lead mankind astray but prevent wickedness and evil
2007-06-04 02:36:24 · answer #7 · answered by darren m 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The answer is simple. If you believe that God created you an atheist, then you're not one. If you're not one, and you believe that God created you, then why do you believe he did? If he didn't create you an atheist destined for hell, then what did he create you for?
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An atheist says he doesn't believe in God, so he can't believe in eternity in the presence of God, and believe in forgiveness of sin, and the sacrifice that Jesus made for him, but anyone who believes in God can.
2007-06-04 02:27:19 · answer #8 · answered by hisgloryisgreat 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
We arent created destined for hell. We are destined for Heaven but God wants us to choose. If we burn in hell its because we made the wrong choice.
2007-06-04 02:26:01 · answer #9 · answered by chickem 4 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Your question is very funny and illogical.
What makes you think god is a "He" !?! It can equally be a "She" or "It" or all three combined. "God" never creates anybody for the purpose of being sent to hell. We ALL CREATE OUR OWN heaven and hell!..... due to our deeds, actions. God has nothing to do with it.
We have been endowed with Free Will - are god's equal to create whatever we want in our wisdom or stupidity!
2007-06-04 02:31:23 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 2⤋
People are not destined to go to Hell. God gives everyone free will. The Bible even talk about it. It is a constant struggle to break away from Evil, and live for the Lord so you will have his Salvation and be with him in Heaven... but no one is born evil and doomed to Hell from the cradle. Find yourself a Bible, start in the book of John. Good luck.
2007-06-04 02:25:32 · answer #11 · answered by wisconsindeathtrip03 3 · 1⤊ 4⤋