Will there be a pre-trib rapture? I dont think so...I am scared of the tribulation and my government?

Question

Im american.
I was taught a pre trib, but i looked at the bible, and studied it, not 1 true prophet believes in a pre trib rapture.

Its going to be worse then ww2 and the holocost combined. Jesus said it will be the worst time mankind has ever seen.

Did you hear about HAARP? These mind control waves they inflect tourtue via satelittes and/OR Via mark of the beast?

They make u kill people who dont have the mark, or u be toruted and drop dead.

Patriot act 2, false flags, 911 inside jobs, now they can come into your homes and exucute you.

There going to round people up, and touture them all tied up, and then chop ur head off, after you watch it happen to other people. ww3, 3 billion dead

I think The Mark will look like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:IAO-logo.png

Were going to starve, econmic collpase, neighbors trying to kill u, no law, no order, no rules, police will kill christians.

It is much worse then that, im outta room, but u get the idea, im scared

Answer 1

I was raised believing Jesus would come for us after the tribulation (post tribulation). If you have accepted Christ as your personal savior, there is no reason to fear. He will give us strength to endure. He will not allow your foot to be moved. Just continue to know that it is all prophesied. Others will accuse Christians of doing horrific things and we will simply have to endure. Our children or parents may be tortured and killed but those who love God know where their Christian loved ones will end up. They will receive the glory that is due them on judgement day Don't forget that.

Answer 2

Pre tribulation for sure. Rev.3:10 Because you have kept my commandments to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. Luke 24:36 Watch therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man. the bible also talks about two seperate comings one where he will come like a thief in the night and 1 Thess. 4:16-18 the dead in Christ shall rise and then the rest of His followers, which is before the tribulation begins and the other one says He will set His feet down and all will see Him and the tares will be removed, which are the rest of the people left at the end of the tribulation who did not follow Him. Matt 24:30 says all will see Him. Rapture-Matthew 24:36 says But of that day and hour no one knows not even the angels of Heaven, but My Father only. Rapture-Matthew 24:44 Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect. there are some verses that give a certain amount of days which add up to seven years that He will come, so how can He come where no one will know and then come where you can figure it up to the day if there are not two seperate comings. That is proof that there will be two seperate comings. Matthew 24:30

Answer 3

Problems with the pre-tribulational view are highlighted by Baptist (and premillennial) theologian Dale Moody, who wrote: "Belief in a pre-tribulational rapture . . . contradicts all three chapters in the New Testament that mention the tribulation and the rapture together (Mark 13:24–27; Matt. 24:26–31; 2 Thess. 2:1–12). . . . The theory is so biblically bankrupt that the usual defense is made using three passages that do not even mention a tribulation (John 14:3; 1 Thess. 4:17; 1 Cor. 15:52). These are important passages, but they have not had one word to say about a pre-tribulational rapture. The score is 3 to 0, three passages for a post-tribulational rapture and three that say nothing on the subject.
. . . Pre-tribulationism is biblically bankrupt and does not know it" (The Word of Truth, 556–7).

Answer 4

God is known by his mercies, or he is known by his judgments. If you are a believer then you have nothing to fear if you stay awake and in a state of readiness awaiting the Lord of Glory. The bible says that we must through much tribuation enter the kingdom of God. We have to learn and stay informed about the things that are going on in the world so that we aren't deceived by the lies of the conspirators who are coming against the Lord as 2 Thessalonians 2:10 says ...with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie.

The Lord's people are coming out of Babylon, false religion. All those in churches that use the perversions of the bible and teach another gospel than that which was once delivered, who soothe say and practice other forms of witchcraft will be caught up in the delusion.

Answer 5

Lover of God is right. The bible says that we will be spared from the wrath of God. I am pretrib, but even if it's midtrib, I am willing to die for my faith. After all, this earth during the Tribulation will be hell on earth anyway and death will be just around the corner, so why not die for the best cause there is --Christ!! God did not give us a spirit of fear (biblical). Read all of Revelation. This does tell us future and when you know the future you will know how to live today. Revelation is a bittersweet message, but you seem to only focus on the bitter part. Don't forget the sweet part which is the HOPE for true christians. You need not fear the future, no matter what happens and whether you have to live thru any of this or not. God has the future, past and present in His control. You let God handle your future and you just handle your walk with Jesus. God bless.

Answer 6

Then, you better pray that the rapture is pre-trib.
"For God hath not appointed us to wrath..."

Post-trib? How do Jesus' saints come back with Him at the Second Coming if the rapture hasn't already occurred? Rev 19

Rev 4 "COME UP HERE" is generally thought of as the timing of the rapture. John writes the things which are, which were, and which will come. Study Revelation...the church is not mentioned between chapters 4 & 19.

Answer 7

Perfect love casts out fear.

You make many valid points. Lots of people are blind to this.

The rapture may be mid trib and it may be pre trib. We are told that we are not destined for wrath. So you can take comfort in that.

Keep reading and studying the Bible, Keep praying for wisdom and discernment.

This world is a crazy place - it is scary to think that we might partake of some of the stuff that is coming quickly on this earth. But keep your eyes on Jesus, He is the author and perfecter of your faith.

Be a light that shines for Jesus in your world. You can reason through the scriptures with people without scaring them. There are stern warnings that we need to heed.

The main thing to remember is to be ready cause no one knows when the hour is coming.

God's peace surpasses our understanding, so hold on to that.

"In God I have put my trust, I shall not be afraid, What can man do to me?" Psalm 56:11

Answer 8

[15] Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.Rev.16

we do not know when the Lord shall return however he has told us that there shall be signs in the latter days before the comming of the Lord.

Rev.1
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.

Every eye shall see him, there is no secret rapture where the christians will be whisked away.

Matt.13
27] So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
[28] He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
[29] But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
[30] Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

In Fact the Tares shall be gathered up first to be tossed into the fire. then we shall rise to meet him in the air.

Matt.24

[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
[27] For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

We will all know on the last day that he has returned. The only way we can tell that if it is the last day is that if their is a day after the returning of the Lord. Then that is not the Lord. He is comming once and only Once to bring Judgment to the wicked and to gather up his children

Answer 9

Look up the verse---spared from the hour.

What about the verse where it says "One shall be taken and one shall be left."?
The 144,000 left behind in the original text is 12000 of each of the 12 tribes of Christ believing Jews. Also known as Messianic Jews, and they are growing in number faster today, than ever before. God is far above government. The tribulation is characterized by judgements---am I right or wrong? "There is therefore now no condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus." Why would we undergo judgements?

Answer 10

Calm down and keep reading your Bible and not all that propaganda junk. You have rightly discovered that the rapture is incorrect. Will you also soon discover that God's name is a strong tower and will protect those who truly love Him and call on it? Remember how some of the plagues in Egypt passed over God's people at that time? Pray for God's holy spirit to help you to understand the truth and read and meditate on all you find in your copy of the Bible. The mark of the beast can only be seen by angels but they will also be able to see the mark of God. You have no need to fear--just don't stop reading and praying for God's direction.